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dkim=fail (rsa verify failed) header.d=freedommail.ch header.s=dkim20160331 header.b=uQs+maga; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Scan-Result: default: False [0.49 / 13.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[tomz@freedommail.ch]; GENERIC_REPUTATION(0.00)[-0.5400217661799]; DWL_DNSWL_FAIL(0.00)[209.51.188.17:server fail]; IP_REPUTATION_HAM(0.00)[asn: 22989(0.06), country: US(-0.00), ip: 209.51.188.17(-0.54)]; R_DKIM_REJECT(1.00)[freedommail.ch:s=dkim20160331]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.51.188.0/24]; MX_GOOD(-0.50)[cached: eggs.gnu.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[freedommail.ch:-]; MAILLIST(-0.20)[mailman]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_FAIL(0.00)[209.51.188.17:server fail]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22989, ipnet:209.51.188.0/24, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[larch=yhetil.org]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[bug-guix@gnu.org,bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; SPF_REPUTATION_HAM(0.00)[-0.56480769411476]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[40549@debbugs.gnu.org]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[gnu.org]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[209.51.188.17:from]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[11]; FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST(0.00)[] X-TUID: bx53n4g13763 On dinsdag 12 mei 2020 10:51:28 CEST Ludovic Court=E8s wrote: > Nothing new here, and everything is properly documented. The bugreport was not about a disconnect between documentation and the tool, the bugreport is a usability bug which stems from the fact that the command= =20 line parser behaves differently from every single other commandline parser= =20 average people like me have ever used. A near 100% of the command line tools on your Gnu/Linux box will behave=20 differently than guix does now. C apps using libc, python apps using their parser, even C++ apps using the = Qt=20 commandline classes, all are generally compatible with regards to behavior. Only Guix is different. > However (srfi srfi-37) does it as we see it now. Fixing it would mean > implementing a different option parser. Then fix that parser. It is inconsistent with the rest of the world and as = long=20 as it is end-user-facing this inconsistency is a usability bug. A rather=20 massive one, I might say as this is about as core to the user-interaction o= f=20 the platform as it can get. =2D-=20 Tom Zander