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FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[bug-guix@gnu.org,bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[gnu.org]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[209.51.188.17:from]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[11]; FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST(0.00)[] X-TUID: 7UKmWGCZpXwW It looks like I was wrong on the ls example, more importantly, it seems we all agree that short options with optional arguments are messy, at best. I think the best course of action is to take a look at the guix command line design and find a way to move away from depending on them. Maybe some iterative change its approach.