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From: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
Cc: 54691@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#54691: fortune-mod propagates various non-nice things
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2022 21:45:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <525e9478-b21b-dfc6-fb56-86fcd858ffaa@telenet.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87leswxyy4.fsf@gmail.com>


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On 14-07-2022 03:30, Maxim Cournoyer wrote:

> The GNU FSDG has says nothing about what programs may or may not
> contain, for a good reason: the line to draw could get very subjective
> (similar to how the GPL ).
>
> I don't think we should judge our software on terms falling outside of
> the Free Software Distribution Guidelines, but a simple thing we could
> add here would be a note in the description to caution the user that
> running
>
> @exampleGNU licellabourlabourabournse incompati
> fortune off
> @end example
>
> is intended to be offensive.
>
> What do you think?

I believe criteria like the FSDG to be important, but not the only 
important criteria -- free software does not live in a vacuum. In this 
case, I believe the absence of misogeny, etc., to be important and 
choosing to further those (*) to be straight-out unethical.

Also, it is already policy to take such things in account, e.g. it has 
been codified in CODE-OF-CONDUCT to some degree, though I want to be 
clear that even if it wasn't codified, it should be policy anyways.  So 
far, the principles behind things like CODE-OF-CONDUCT haven't been 
applied to the contents of package but I see no reason they shouldn't be.

(*) here I consider choosing to take no action to be a choice.

Also, I would like to note that nobody here seems to actually want the 
fortune-mod or disagrees that those "jokes" are vile and serve no useful 
purpose, so it's not like removing it would cause fragmentation, so that 
potential issue you seem to be referring to (or maybe I'm reading to 
much in your response?) does not seem to apply here.

Greetings,
Maxime.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-07-19 19:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-03 13:09 bug#54691: fortune-mod propagates various non-nice things Maxime Devos
2022-04-03 17:26 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-04-03 18:12   ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-03 18:41   ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-04 10:41   ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-19 19:20   ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-20  4:31     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-20  8:45       ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-20 16:57         ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-20 18:50           ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-03 18:20 ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-14  1:30 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-07-14 13:00   ` Csepp
2022-07-14 14:55     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-07-19 18:54       ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-19 19:45   ` Maxime Devos [this message]
2022-07-23 15:06 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v3 2/6] gnu: Add daikichi Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:06 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v2 1/5] " Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:06 ` bug#54691: [PATCH " Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:11 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v3 3/6] gnu: Add fortunes-jkirchartz Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:11 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v2 2/5] " Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:11 ` bug#54691: [PATCH " Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 19:54   ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-23 20:43     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 21:41       ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-23 21:52         ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 22:13           ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-23 19:56   ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-23 20:53     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 22:01       ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-24  1:09       ` bokr
2022-07-23 15:13 ` bug#54691: [PATCH 3/5] gnu: Remove fortune-mod Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 19:58   ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-23 20:54     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:13 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v2 " Liliana Marie Prikler
     [not found]   ` <87y1w5sarm.fsf_-_@gnu.org>
2022-08-03 17:09     ` bug#54691: fortune-mod propagates various non-nice things Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-04 12:23       ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-08-04 15:37         ` [bug#56599] " Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Guix-patches via
2022-08-04 17:12           ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-04 19:58             ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via Bug reports for GNU Guix
     [not found]               ` <20220806230112.GA16948@LionPure>
2022-08-06 23:05                 ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-23 15:13 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v3 4/6] gnu: Remove fortune-mod Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:16 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v2 4/5] gnu: Remove rinutils Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-24 10:33   ` paren--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2022-07-24 11:27     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:16 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v3 5/6] " Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:16 ` bug#54691: [PATCH 4/5] " Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:17 ` bug#54691: [PATCH 5/5] gnu: Remove shlomif-cmake-modules Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:17 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v2 " Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-23 15:17 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v3 6/6] " Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-13  9:26 ` bug#54691: [PATCH v3 1/6] build-system: copy: Support #:tests? Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-28 22:16   ` Liliana Marie Prikler

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