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spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.34 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=i0erfQkV; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=riseup.net (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 41528EFAA X-Spam-Score: -1.34 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 91FVZJaFjDLI > For now, our focus is on improving the guided installer itself. Ok as you wish why not, But please dont give something less than what Debian installer providing. Ludovic Courtès: > Hi, > > bo0od skribis: > >>> Did you try the graphical installation? >>> >>> https://guix.gnu.org/en/videos/system-graphical-installer/ >>> >>> It’s key strokes rather than clicks, but I think it addresses most of >>> the issues you describe. >> >> Yes i do know this, But whats different between what guix is doing and >> others are doing (examples i gave above), They give you access to GUI >> of their distro without internet and from within this live GUI access >> to the distro you can configure the internet/partition..etc (easily >> specially for first time users) using GUI tools without internet (you >> can even test the distro without the need to install it) > > Letting users use GUI (or non-GUI) tools by themselves doesn’t look > appealing to me. We made the choice to provide a guided installer, > similar to that of Debian and other distros, such that users don’t have > to figure out by themselves that they need to run gparted, follow steps, > etc. > >> Thats what im requesting not what is currently happening. >> >>> Did you try the live VM image? >>> >>> https://guix.gnu.org/en/download/ >> >> What? where? > > Search for “QEMU”. > >>> I’m closing because I don’t see anything actionable. Please file issues >>> focused on specific problems. >> >> Guix need to improve itself when first time initiated, Please check >> other projects like NixOS,Triskel,Mint,Ubuntu...etc > > I contributed to NixOS long ago, and unless things have changed, it > doesn’t have a guided installer. > >> If you dont like that live graphical gui access, then do it as debian >> is doing it which give you proper gui screen specifically intended to >> configure your internet then you can proceed with the installation. > > So I guess your primary request is about giving access to the GUIs. > That comes at a cost (the ISO is already quite big) but that’s something > we could consider. > > For now, our focus is on improving the guided installer itself. > > Thanks, > Ludo’. >