From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id QGieChoocF/8JwAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 05:50:18 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id qLINBhoocF+OIgAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 05:50:18 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB22F9402AA for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 05:50:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:43268 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kMPZe-00066X-EJ for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 01:50:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54632) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kMPZS-000667-Ey for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 01:50:02 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:36608) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kMPZS-0007jj-5O for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 01:50:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kMPZS-0000O6-24 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 01:50:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#43610: IceCat segfault Resent-From: raingloom Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2020 05:50:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43610 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Mark H Weaver Received: via spool by 43610-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B43610.16011857701441 (code B ref 43610); Sun, 27 Sep 2020 05:50:02 +0000 Received: (at 43610) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Sep 2020 05:49:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48154 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kMPYw-0000NB-6p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 01:49:30 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:60152) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kMPYt-0000N2-EK for 43610@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 01:49:28 -0400 Received: from bell.riseup.net (bell-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BzZTy2f9LzFgrR; Sat, 26 Sep 2020 22:49:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1601185766; bh=j9bRu0+//GID/LOChHhcwI9CTSJo2peuCOFRj09zmD8=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=jvbRYwMzcZisXCLCTKfxzr+hVVwvPKOS+uoQaWU5rk2Y6dGY1k0tSMXaoc4YeLma2 IHcWWjsTDpXnN8tkMuFjTSgBHWjMS6UChxUo4MA7i8cWiRvKqh8M4mJN0vlHxqvQ03 ucUO4DPf3zCZDBuv+Gf19tvqt97KeIws4claaJNE= X-Riseup-User-ID: CDD7D3018EA542E1524C56CCCF540B11B1921EC3FFBED66EE41433E268EE23B2 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bell.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4BzZTx3bHzzJncd; Sat, 26 Sep 2020 22:49:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2020 07:49:37 +0200 From: raingloom Message-ID: <20200927074937.3b23c327@riseup.net> In-Reply-To: <87blhs8lb7.fsf@netris.org> References: <20200925152609.104d0e10@riseup.net> <87r1qp96py.fsf@netris.org> <20200926043425.7724956d@riseup.net> <87blhs8lb7.fsf@netris.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-BeenThere: bug-guix@gnu.org List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: 43610@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "bug-Guix" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (rsa verify failed) header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=jvbRYwMz; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=riseup.net (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.09 X-TUID: r5q+Rwt+d2xy On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 14:05:53 -0400 Mark H Weaver wrote: > Hi, > > raingloom writes: > > It crashed immediately without any visible activity. > > Okay. > > > It does start up properly with a fresh profile. I'll try to bisect > > the addons list later. > > In the meantime, to start IceCat 78 with your existing profile but > with addons temporarily disabled, try running: > > icecat -safe-mode > > That should allow you to recover your existing bookmarks, history, > cookies, saved passwords, tabs, etc. Then you can try adding back > your preferred addons incrementally to find out which one is causing > the problem. It still crashes with the -safe-mode flag. Luckily I keep most things outside modern browsers, so it's not a huge loss. (For obvious reasons I do not consider them reliable.) > > Tbh this would be a good time to have a debug output for IceCat on > > hand. > > While I acknowledge that it might occasionally be useful in edge cases > like this, it would also dramatically increase the memory requirements > at build time. For what it's worth, in the ~6 years that I've been > maintaining the IceCat package in Guix, I don't recall being asked > for a debug output before now. > > I'm particularly sensitive to the memory requirements at build time, > because I choose not to trust the build farm and therefore to build my > entire Guix system with GNOME from source code on a relatively old > Thinkpad X200 with only 4 GB of RAM. I've been doing this for many > years, and I'd like to enable other Guix users to do so if they wish. > > My impression is that IceCat debug outputs would primarily useful to > people who are actively developing IceCat, in which case it makes more > sense to build it manually to allow incremental rebuilds after > modifying the source code. > > If it turns out that there's more interest in IceCat debug outputs > than I've anticipated (others: please speak up if you need this!), > I'm not necessarily opposed to adding them, but someone with a more > powerful machine would need to take over maintenance of our IceCat > package, because I would be unable to locally test the official build. > > What do you think? Do other people need IceCat 'debug' outputs? > > Thanks, > Mark Huh, I was not aware that it increased build time memory requirements. I assumed it just gets sent to the void in the 'strip phase, just like it is in other packages. Maybe feature flags could help with this in the future. Since (hopefully) nothing depends on IceCat, the build farm could just build it with debug symbols, and those who want to build it locally can build it without them. But that's off topic for this thread. Local builds are definitely cool. As a fellow 4 gigger/thinkpadder I appreciate anything that lets me build things locally without 16+ gigs of swap. (you might think that's an exaggeration, but then you haven't tried to build Idris 2 with Idris 1.)