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dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 2001:470:142::17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Scan-Result: default: False [-0.51 / 13.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[bokr@bokr.com]; GENERIC_REPUTATION(0.00)[-0.49473789824759]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:470:142::/48:c]; IP_REPUTATION_HAM(0.00)[asn: 22989(0.16), country: US(-0.00), ip: 2001:470:142::17(-0.49)]; DWL_DNSWL_FAIL(0.00)[2001:470:142::17:server fail]; MX_GOOD(-0.50)[cached: eggs.gnu.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILLIST(-0.20)[mailman]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_FAIL(0.00)[2001:470:142::17:server fail]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22989, ipnet:2001:470:142::/48, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[larch=yhetil.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; URIBL_BLOCKED(0.00)[tobias.gr:email]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[bokr@bokr.com,bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bokr.com]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[10]; FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST(0.00)[] X-TUID: KtpOJOryvgfp On +2020-04-30 22:54:47 +0200, zimoun wrote: > Hi Tobias, > > On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 at 21:20, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice wrote: > > > > Hartmut, Zimoun, > > > > Hartmut Goebel 写道： > > > After processing options, guix need to "expanduser()" (as it is > > > called > > > in Python) on all arguments which are paths. > > > > If any Python (or other) software does this, it's broken. File a > > bug there. > > > > This is the wrong thing to do and makes the GNU system an > > inconsistent mess. …OK, *more* of an inconsistent, loveable, mess > > ;-) > > > > It also makes > > > > $ sudo guix system --load-path=~/path/tp/my/project … > > > > and > > > > $ sudo guix system -L ~/path/to/my/project -A mypackage … > > > > suddenly result in different file names. > > Sorry to be slow. Naive questions. > > Do you mean the issue comes from who expand '~' (user vs sudo)? > Or do you mean refer to subfolder named '~, i.e., $HOME/foo/~/bar? > > I should miss a point... about what is less or more inconsistent. :-) > Because it seems more based on conventions than on consistent inconsistencies. > > About expansion, is it not the same question with > '--load-path=$HOME/path/to/' vs '-L $HOME/path/to/'? > About naming, is it possible to create a folder named '~' directly in $HOME? > > Well, I am surely not enough skilled to have an opinion but I have > learnt something. :-) > FYA:(Amusement): man bash to see what more ~ can lead to ;-) (scroll down or search for the "Tilde Expansion" section) > > > Please don't do it. > > The fact that Guile does not have a built-in ``expand-tilde`` is a > strong indication to not do it. ;-) > > > Cheers, > simon > > > -- Regards, Bengt Richter