From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" Subject: bug#36786: Warn of AMD GPUs unusable with Guix System Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 22:03:26 +0200 Message-ID: <20190726200325.25npy5xwkjp7m353@pelzflorian.localdomain> References: <20190724145602.vtpnqd6kxexypdmx@pelzflorian.localdomain> <20190724154249.qgd4ganifakxmo2f@pelzflorian.localdomain> <20190724175327.lx2e53it46xnjxz6@pelzflorian.localdomain> <874l3bb6e5.fsf@elephly.net> <87zhl1pvg7.fsf@gnu.org> <20190726055704.vev4wy56q5osznzi@pelzflorian.localdomain> <87o91glrh4.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35690) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hr6Rg-00068g-7R for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jul 2019 16:04:05 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hr6Re-00021Z-Rs for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jul 2019 16:04:04 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:34580) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hr6Re-00021M-Ns for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jul 2019 16:04:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hr6Re-0004TY-Fi for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jul 2019 16:04:02 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87o91glrh4.fsf@gnu.org> List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "bug-Guix" To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: 36786@debbugs.gnu.org On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 05:56:23PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" skribis: > > While my patch before addresses AMD-specific tweaks in the manual > > under Hardware Considerations, it is not enough if on the *download > > page* Guix is claimed to run on “an i686, x86_64, ARMv7, or AArch64 > > machine“ without saying linux-libre *on some hardware, is not > > supported* and referencing the Hardware Considerations section and > > h-node, I think. > > Well, ‘Limitations’ and ‘Hardware Considerations’ are the first sections > one see when following ‘Installation Instructions’ at > . We can always move things one level > higher, but eventually everything ends up at the top level. :-) > I would rather see a more prominent link to the manual and h-node where on the downloads page it says “runs on i686, x86_64, ARM”, because I suppose many people do not read the manual until they know they need to, and instead expect things to just work, especially now that there’s a graphical installer. > > >From e88ee68c09266e1d09d24ff0d1b6ec6a4708841b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > > From: Florian Pelz > > Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 23:02:21 +0200 > > Subject: [PATCH] doc: Mention AMD Radeon workaround when TTYs are not redrawn. > > > > * doc/guix.texi (Hardware Considerations): Describe workaround. > > […] > > I think this doesn’t fit well here: the previous paragraphs are about > RYF, h-node.org, and the more general issue. > > Like Ricardo wrote, since this is not Guix-specific, it would be great > if we could link to other resources on this topic. Are you aware of any > such on-line resource? > > If there’s no such thing, then we should definitely add this > information, but perhaps we should move the paragraph a bit higher (next > to Wifi), and possibly turn Wifi into an item of this list. WDYT? > Yes, I agree this is not a good place in the manual. However, I thought of it more as a list of hardware-specific *and* Guix-specific tweaks. Note that the patch does not mention Xorg not working on some AMD GPUs (h-node is the place for that, even though currently it does not yet list many AMD Radeons), instead the patch is about hardware-specific tweaks that can be made. For example, a recommendation of thinkfan for Thinkpads could be placed in such a section too (once there is a Guix service for thinkfan; I do not know how important thinkfan is and do not own a Thinkpad, it is just an example). The Arch wiki for example has articles on various specific kinds of hardware. Regards, Florian