From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ng0 Subject: bug#30939: shepherd: detailed output should be placed into well-known location and not tty Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 18:35:55 +0000 Message-ID: <20180325183555.cilo6qyrj43jh6he@abyayala> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52196) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f0AUt-0002ue-1b for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 14:36:03 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f0AUs-0002rA-7t for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 14:36:03 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:45274) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f0AUs-0002r2-3A for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 14:36:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f0AUr-0006oZ-Sq for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 14:36:01 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52106) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f0AUb-0002tN-Op for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 14:35:46 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f0AUb-0002lQ-2f for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 14:35:45 -0400 Received: from conspiracy.of.n0.is ([2a01:4f8:1c0c:7ad0::1]:46214) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f0AUa-0002kV-No for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 14:35:44 -0400 Received: by conspiracy.of.n0.is (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 6485dd03 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO) for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 18:35:40 +0000 (UTC) Content-Disposition: inline List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+gcggb-bug-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "bug-Guix" To: 30939@debbugs.gnu.org Problem, not just when a service is misbehaving after successful system reconfigure: $ sudo herd start smtpd Password: Service smtpd could not be started. herd: failed to start service smtpd This is on virtual terminal in X11, as well as in /var/log/messages, /var/log/shepherd.log, etc. This is not enough. If I wanted more info, I'd expect that sudo herd status smtpd would give it (which it does not), so the only reliable source of information so far is tty 1. Can we fix that in one of the next shepherd releases? Or is this something we have to fix in Guix?