From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luis Felipe Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: understanding guile-gi Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2022 16:45:19 +0000 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Luis Felipe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="------8a57941b48c948223d1c83b6638018ca08e85f1c7f4cfc10ad5bde422be96bf3"; charset=utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15519"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: guile-user@gnu.org To: Zelphir Kaltstahl Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 16 17:46:08 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n98fQ-0003qD-20 for guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2022 17:46:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42336 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n98fP-00043T-2S for guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2022 11:46:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54522) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n98en-00042J-Kv for guile-user@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2022 11:45:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-4318.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.18]:32941) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n98ek-0003ft-IN for guile-user@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2022 11:45:28 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail2; t=1642351521; bh=2L1PkQjexvPUEqQDNd8+idYo1gN8tftSJkt3jKnX6+M=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:From:To:Cc; b=ghQoLuwv1Oxvz72tSjRiomdaqLnHhyloehoX4s0b+V8WBoPXgxuIEufRiRrB+TT13 w31nqAmwgUOszkfdt5ZVUYwut+Eh24Cn1nSttJUzBLbxtN8gKucgVwmSVJBwn4I8ei +95YN8OjQDiJGAntqpgCqt7i0M2fv8dL6VV/+/jLp0XN+Tpkrqqz48yHcVJVPZ1pBX pPzOPsqx91LFCpu0m78Nz4DNjQYeGnKimgBX8RliQTyCjnEiiyQLkzQvgkgvqozedv WayKlvi3TA4lwgLF+HJG/bTaAaNBNlW8wQQZ852Ypzj602pDLUCfQR6QSFtsM4+44j KEpvgRwKHC+rQ== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.43.18; envelope-from=luis.felipe.la@protonmail.com; helo=mail-4318.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-user" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.user:17956 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --------8a57941b48c948223d1c83b6638018ca08e85f1c7f4cfc10ad5bde422be96bf3 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary=---------------------b548272fbae71b59f7a43e67e07b96c4 -----------------------b548272fbae71b59f7a43e67e07b96c4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 On Sunday, January 16th, 2022 at 1:37 PM, Zelphir Kaltstahl wrote: > Which things are part of GTK and which things are part of Gnome? Current= ly my > picture is: GTK contains all the GUI things and Gnome the data things. F= or > example: GTK might contain some date picker dialog or popup or whatever,= but the > datatype for date itself would be part of Gnome. "GDate". As such Gnome = provides > a sort of common datatypes basis, which could be used by other framework= s as > well (and maybe is?). Maybe this can serve as an overview of where is everything: For generic GTK apps (not necessarily targeted at GNOME): https://www.gtk.= org/docs/apis/ For GTK apps that integrate well with GNOME: https://developer.gnome.org/d= ocumentation/introduction/components.html Also, for new projects, if you would like your app to adapt well to differ= ent screens, like modern web apps do, maybe take a look at libhandy (https= ://gnome.pages.gitlab.gnome.org/libhandy/) and libadwaita (https://gnome.p= ages.gitlab.gnome.org/libadwaita/doc/). The latter, if I understand correc= tly will replace the former. 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