From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Uhl Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: Around again, and docs lead role Date: 04 May 2003 15:42:15 -0600 Sender: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <3E92E1B40021F4D7@pop3.tiscalinet.es> <20030503113403.GC5407@www> <20030504194742.GB16222@www> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052084925 1609 80.91.224.249 (4 May 2003 21:48:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 21:48:45 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 04 23:48:43 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19CRLf-0000Pl-00 for ; Sun, 04 May 2003 23:48:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19CRGR-0000n7-03 for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 May 2003 17:43:19 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19CRFj-0000BV-00 for guile-user@gnu.org; Sun, 04 May 2003 17:42:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19CRFa-00006k-00 for guile-user@gnu.org; Sun, 04 May 2003 17:42:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [66.7.170.6] (helo=latakia.dyndns.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19CRFQ-0008TI-00 for guile-user@gnu.org; Sun, 04 May 2003 17:42:17 -0400 Original-Received: (from ruhl@localhost) by latakia.dyndns.org (8.11.6/linuxconf) id h44LgGA28799; Sun, 4 May 2003 15:42:16 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: latakia.dyndns.org: ruhl set sender to ruhl@4dv.net using -f Original-To: guile-user@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <20030504194742.GB16222@www> Original-Lines: 31 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.2 X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.user:1904 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.guile.user:1904 rm@fabula.de writes: > > > Well, most of them seem to either be print books (which cost dough), > > or written specifically for some incompatible dialect. > > ??? "Teach yourself Scheme in fixnum day" is free and takes greate > care *not* to be dialect specific. SICP is available online as well > ... But that introduces the _language_, not the _implementation_. Most users don't care about the language, but rather about how to solve their problems. Or at least that's what I think. What's really needed is an `introduction to problem solving with guile,' which teaches Scheme (necessarily) and guile's extensions thereto (necessarily), and doesn't particularly distinguish--because, I feel, most users don't really care. > I don't know. Somehow i have the feeling that a Scheme based > scripting language will never be as popular as Perl or Python etc. Probably not. But not necessarily. After all, elisp has done pretty well, driven by the killer app emacs; if more and more apps use guile as an extension language, then people will become accustomed to extending apps in Scheme, and we'll all reap the benefits. OTOH, were Python a little more advanced (i.e. an exact analogue of Scheme, incl. macros and all) and a _lot_ faster, I'd probably be tempted to go with it despite its warts. -- Robert Uhl Cristo Resucitado! En Verdad Resucitado! _______________________________________________ Guile-user mailing list Guile-user@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/guile-user