From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Uhl Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: Around again, and docs lead role Date: 03 May 2003 16:21:03 -0600 Sender: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <3E92E1B40021F4D7@pop3.tiscalinet.es> <20030503113403.GC5407@www> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052000457 20454 80.91.224.249 (3 May 2003 22:20:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 22:20:57 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 04 00:20:54 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19C5NF-0005Ja-00 for ; Sun, 04 May 2003 00:20:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19C5OG-0007yr-00 for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 May 2003 18:21:56 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19C5Np-0007t7-00 for guile-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 May 2003 18:21:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19C5Nj-0007nt-00 for guile-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 May 2003 18:21:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [66.7.170.6] (helo=latakia.dyndns.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19C5Nd-0007l1-00 for guile-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 May 2003 18:21:17 -0400 Original-Received: (from ruhl@localhost) by latakia.dyndns.org (8.11.6/linuxconf) id h43ML4h18779; Sat, 3 May 2003 16:21:04 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: latakia.dyndns.org: ruhl set sender to ruhl@4dv.net using -f Original-To: guile-user@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <20030503113403.GC5407@www> Original-Lines: 35 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.2 X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.user:1893 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.guile.user:1893 rm@fabula.de writes: > > > My own problem has been a feeling that it's not complete. At least, > > trying to figure out the C bindings has been...interesting. >=20 > I had similar experiences. The existing documentation *is* very good, > but i was astonished to find a few undocumented jewels (well, actually > pretty neccessary stuff:) in the header files... Yup--exactly the problem I've had. There are a few things (which I cannot recall anymore) which have been right royal bears without docs. Most of 'em I've solved by digging through headers, figuring them out once, and then copy-pasting from then on. Not the most elegant way to handle things, for certain:-} > > But other than that it's been decent. Of course, I did have to > > learn Scheme from SICP; it'd be nice were there an intro to Scheme > > itself somewhere. >=20 > Hmm, there a a handfull of pretty good Scheme intros available, why > bother duplicating these efforts (better: write a Guile-specific > addendum for one of these). Well, most of them seem to either be print books (which cost dough), or written specifically for some incompatible dialect. The bigger issue is that I imagine most of us want Guile to become the extension package of choice, even more popular than Perl or Python. To be successful at that, it's useful to have a tutorial, particularly when the language is as odd as a Lisp dialect can seem as first. Those unfamiliar with Scheme who happen upon Guile are likely to skip past, scared away by the parentheses and lack of a thorough introduction. --=20 Robert Uhl Il Crist ais res=FCst=E0! El ais vairamaing res=FCst=E0! _______________________________________________ Guile-user mailing list Guile-user@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/guile-user