* Guile 1.9 series, unquote and unquote-splicing not up-to-date.
@ 2010-12-14 16:39 Rock
2011-02-08 20:41 ` Andy Wingo
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From: Rock @ 2010-12-14 16:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: guile-user
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I've just verified that the implementations of unquote and unquote-splicing
in Guile do not conform to R6RS. Perhaps this is intentional, but it would
be a shame because the change in R6RS is certainly one for the better.
Scheme's quasiquotation is defined very well (it's even used as a reference
in Common Lisp's backquote definition) but ... it did have a major drawback.
unquote (and unquote-splicing as well) cannot be applied to multiple
expressions. This messes things up a little, especially when you're dealing
with nested quasiquotations. Anyway, you can't do things like this (like you
can in CL and R6RS):
(let ((name 'foo))
`((unquote name name name)))
=> (foo foo foo)
But the latter example is nothing. You can get around it in a second. There
are however MUCH worse-case scenarios which, quite possibly, cannot be
worked around (or at most with ugly solutions).
The current rules for evaluation are (from R6RS):
If an (unquote <expression> ...) form appears inside a <qq template>,
however, the <expression>s are evaluated (“unquoted”) and their results are
inserted into the structure instead of the unquote form.
If an (unquote-splicing <expression> ...) form appears inside a <qq
template>, then the <expression>s must evaluate to lists; the opening and
closing parentheses of the lists are then “stripped away” and the elements
of the lists are inserted in place of the unquote-splicing form.
Any unquote-splicing or multi-operand unquote form must appear only within a
list or vector <qq template>.
That just about says it all. Alan Bawden discussed the previous flaw in
Scheme. Now it's cured. Hope to see the new rules in Guile too.
--
Rocco Rossi
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* Re: Guile 1.9 series, unquote and unquote-splicing not up-to-date.
2010-12-14 16:39 Guile 1.9 series, unquote and unquote-splicing not up-to-date Rock
@ 2011-02-08 20:41 ` Andy Wingo
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From: Andy Wingo @ 2011-02-08 20:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rock; +Cc: guile-user
On Tue 14 Dec 2010 17:39, Rock <rocco.rossi@gmail.com> writes:
> unquote (and unquote-splicing as well) cannot be applied to multiple
> expressions.
Ah, interesting. I had not noticed this feature.
Turns out this was easy to fix, I just imported upstream psyntax's
quasiquote definition. Pushed to git. Thanks for the report!
Andy
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