a straight way to testing the own scheme capabilities?

a straight way to testing the own scheme capabilities?

[maledetto]

hello again

in my last post, possibly, i was a bit overwhelming ;)

my simple intention is to do a straight check how 'fit' i am in scheme
without studying multiple thick books and their examples. do you have
any good hints?

regards,
maledetto <maledetto@online.de>

Re: a straight way to testing the own scheme capabilities?

[Aleix Conchillo Flaqué]

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 17:48, maledetto <maledetto@online.de> wrote:
> hello again
>
> in my last post, possibly, i was a bit overwhelming ;)
>
> my simple intention is to do a straight check how 'fit' i am in scheme
> without studying multiple thick books and their examples. do you have
> any good hints?
>

I'm new to Scheme, and what I'm doing is contributing to an existent
project. I'm not testing my "capabilities", I'm just learning new
ones. I try to understand code from people with years of experience
behind and then try to do some updates.

Cheers,

Aleix

Re: a straight way to testing the own scheme capabilities?

[Thien-Thi Nguyen]

() maledetto <maledetto@online.de>
() Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:48:40 +0100

   my simple intention is to do a straight check how 'fit' i am in scheme
   without studying multiple thick books and their examples.  do you have
   any good hints?

You can pick some Scheme code out there and read it, with an eye
on adding comments and posting the diffs to be incorporated upstream.
This exercise will help you gauge your understanding against that of
those who maintain the code.  Some positive side effects: code review,
more comments (at an "appropriate" level), interaction with multiple
"real world" examples and people.  Caveat: the latter might degenerate
into a negative experience, people being what they are, but then that's
life outside the books.

Re: a straight way to testing the own scheme capabilities?

[maledetto]

On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:07:17 +0100
Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnuvola.org> wrote:

> () maledetto <maledetto@online.de>
> () Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:48:40 +0100
> 
>    my simple intention is to do a straight check how 'fit' i am in
> scheme without studying multiple thick books and their examples.  do
> you have any good hints?
> 
> You can pick some Scheme code out there and read it, with an eye
> on adding comments and posting the diffs to be incorporated upstream.
> This exercise will help you gauge your understanding against that of
> those who maintain the code.  Some positive side effects: code review,
> more comments (at an "appropriate" level), interaction with multiple
> "real world" examples and people.  Caveat: the latter might degenerate
> into a negative experience, people being what they are, but then
> that's life outside the books.
> 

many thanks for the comments. but they rather target at programming
skills and not that at knowledge-about-the-language (call/cc, ,@,
etc.) they also aint the quickest ways ;) aren't there some tests out
there?

regards,
maledetto <maledetto@online.de>

Re: a straight way to testing the own scheme capabilities?

[Thien-Thi Nguyen]

() maledetto <maledetto@online.de>
() Thu, 20 Jan 2011 23:12:25 +0100

   aren't there some tests out there?

What would such a test look like?

Re: a straight way to testing the own scheme capabilities?

[Joel James Adamson]

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Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnuvola.org> writes:

> () maledetto <maledetto@online.de>
> () Thu, 20 Jan 2011 23:12:25 +0100
>
>    aren't there some tests out there?
>
> What would such a test look like?

To the OP: Can you be more specific about what you want?  I suggest
reading The Little Schemer[1] if you want to really understand the
concepts behind the language.  That book advanced my thinking hugely.  I
still refer to it occasionally.

Joel


Footnotes: 
[1]  http://www.worldcat.org/title/little-schemer/oclc/33166665

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Joel J. Adamson
Servedio Lab
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

FSF Member #8164
http://www.unc.edu/~adamsonj

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Re: a straight way to testing the own scheme capabilities?

[maledetto]

On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 09:07:49 -0500
Joel James Adamson <adamsonj@email.unc.edu> wrote:

> Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnuvola.org> writes:
> 
> > () maledetto <maledetto@online.de>
> > () Thu, 20 Jan 2011 23:12:25 +0100
> >
> >    aren't there some tests out there?
> >
> > What would such a test look like?
> 
> To the OP: Can you be more specific about what you want?  I suggest
> reading The Little Schemer[1] if you want to really understand the
> concepts behind the language.  That book advanced my thinking
> hugely.  I still refer to it occasionally.
> 
> Joel
> 

there's a simple reason for my question. i'm in the need to quickly
refresh my knowledge about the language because of a possible job in the
very near future. reading full books is a bit overhead in that short
time, and i tend to always find everything plausible in books without
being able to reproduce what i read. i rather like tutorials and
stuff that stays with the detail. but what i really want to reach is a
safe feeling. i just want to get sure about the current state of my
own, rusty knowledge about scheme. this is why i rather liked to 'test'
myself (like in school, but no multiple choice ;) the quick, easy and
dirty way.

regards,
maledetto <maledetto@online.de>

Re: a straight way to testing the own scheme capabilities?

[Joel James Adamson]

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maledetto <maledetto@online.de> writes:

> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 09:07:49 -0500
> Joel James Adamson <adamsonj@email.unc.edu> wrote:
>
>> Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnuvola.org> writes:
>> 
>> > () maledetto <maledetto@online.de>
>> > () Thu, 20 Jan 2011 23:12:25 +0100
>> >
>> >    aren't there some tests out there?
>> >
>> > What would such a test look like?
>> 
>> To the OP: Can you be more specific about what you want?  I suggest
>> reading The Little Schemer[1] if you want to really understand the
>> concepts behind the language.  That book advanced my thinking
>> hugely.  I still refer to it occasionally.
>> 
>> Joel
>> 
>
> there's a simple reason for my question. i'm in the need to quickly
> refresh my knowledge about the language because of a possible job in the
> very near future.

Perhaps pick a programming task, write a program in Scheme, and then
submit it here or comp.lang.scheme and solicit comments.  I still don't
understand how you'd get more out of some kind of "test" than you would
get out of just using the language again.

Joel

-- 
Joel J. Adamson
Servedio Lab
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

FSF Member #8164
http://www.unc.edu/~adamsonj

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