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From: Robert Uhl <ruhl@4dv.net>
Subject: Re: Around again, and docs lead role
Date: 04 May 2003 15:34:01 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m33cju8khi.fsf@latakia.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0305031856310.29627@helena.whitefang.com>

Thamer Al-Harbash <tmh@whitefang.com> writes:
> 
> > To be successful at that, it's useful to have a tutorial,
> > particularly when the language is as odd as a Lisp dialect can seem
> > as first.  Those unfamiliar with Scheme who happen upon Guile are
> > likely to skip past, scared away by the parentheses and lack of a
> > thorough introduction.
> 
> I propose placing a link from the guile page to an on-line copy of the
> Prentice Hall book which is reproduced there with the permission of
> the publisher.

It's my opinion (and I could be _quite_ wrong on this) that users don't
really care about the language/implementation distinction.  They use
Perl; they use Python; they use Common Lisp; they use Guile.  They don't
want to have to keep in mind `this is the core of the language, while
that is an implementation-specific add-on.'  And really, they're kind of
right: just as there is a commonality between Common Lisp and Scheme, so
too there is a commonality between e.g. guile, gambit and SCM--but from
the user's point of view, they're not-quite-compatible & thus different.

What users want, I believe, is not an `introduction to Scheme,' but
rather an `introduction to guile.'  The former tells them about a
language; the latter tells them how to solve their problems.  I'm not
saying that viewpoint is necessarily right or wrong, but it's my
perception of what is in fact the case.

-- 
Robert Uhl <ruhl@4dv.net>
Christ is Risen!  Truly He is Risen!


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-05-04 21:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-26  7:33 Around again, and docs lead role Neil Jerram
2003-04-26 10:19 ` Thamer Al-Harbash
2003-04-27 20:56   ` Neil Jerram
     [not found]   ` <3E92E1B40021F4D7@pop3.tiscalinet.es>
2003-04-27 21:01     ` Neil Jerram
     [not found]       ` <3E92E1B4002B0632@pop3.tiscalinet.es>
2003-04-30 22:47         ` Neil Jerram
     [not found]           ` <3EAFE4EC000D9733@pop1.tiscalinet.es>
2003-05-07 21:06             ` Doc organization (Re: Around again, and docs lead role) Neil Jerram
2003-05-08 16:21               ` Rob Browning
2003-05-08 17:50                 ` rm
2003-05-08 22:47                   ` Neil Jerram
2003-10-28 16:09                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2003-05-08 22:36                 ` Neil Jerram
2003-05-09  2:23                   ` Rob Browning
2003-05-09 17:46                     ` David Van Horn
2003-05-10 11:32                     ` Neil Jerram
2003-05-15 16:02                       ` Rob Browning
2003-05-15 16:33                         ` Paul Jarc
2003-05-09 11:52                 ` Bill Schottstaedt
2003-05-13 23:01                   ` Neil Jerram
2003-05-14  1:07                     ` Viktor Pavlenko
2003-05-14 14:29                     ` Bill Schottstaedt
2003-05-15  7:55                       ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2003-05-17  3:02                         ` Max Techter
2003-05-09  8:15               ` tomas
2003-05-10 12:01                 ` Neil Jerram
2003-05-12 11:40                   ` tomas
2003-05-03  4:40         ` Around again, and docs lead role Robert Uhl
2003-05-03 11:34           ` rm
2003-05-03 22:21             ` Robert Uhl
2003-05-03 23:15               ` Thamer Al-Harbash
2003-05-04  8:40                 ` David Allouche
2003-05-04 21:34                 ` Robert Uhl [this message]
2003-05-04 19:47               ` rm
2003-05-04 21:42                 ` Robert Uhl
2003-05-04 23:38                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2003-05-07 22:52             ` Neil Jerram
2003-05-08 22:32               ` State of Docs [was] " rm
2003-05-08 23:11                 ` Neil Jerram
2003-05-10  0:47                   ` State of Docs Kevin Ryde

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