From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Zelphir Kaltstahl Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: understanding guile-gi Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 08:30:52 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20220117021613.a8918d90ff61acef1dec9350@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12406"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Guile User To: vine35792468@gmail.com Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 17 09:33:58 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n9NSg-00030f-JZ for guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 09:33:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40014 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9NSf-0002l5-FH for guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 03:33:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:32804) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9NPn-0008OD-EC for guile-user@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 03:30:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:51231) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9NPk-0003cl-VN for guile-user@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 03:30:59 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BB19240026 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 09:30:54 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.de; s=2017; t=1642408254; bh=tsN8arLTeRdk3Mg+xiqrlRulUgRCCRQTW4qUmPeN8sI=; h=Subject:To:Cc:From:Date:From; b=mSttzPJjLS/qxvXtrYT5kTH94BFW4sOO8MSMotUzrkX+5/LKGisRxOq3E9pnbzHU1 lxQJQU2Qc6O9g7Q0D7kcilC166Er4ZPPT7OFCcMmJjLjY7ZE9ZyE9rCCw0JNYoK7tS L5V+kLWLRdBYaUFGEPPM9fg1Rsoh1A88FRQMLhADBJn3paUkPQsorgR75y0la5iPef pIsozfuZwzsXbSs950eEKqx00iqa1NxrCQ00NCjkBJhAlLo8KJBYwwN20j8Uu49IvE ZWeuq/PzxeuDFasE1ySYX9u3IjSSya63omEe+28zPP2DnQrYUzdt9Al5fjn40DnFrQ UVoOloSrBvboQ== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4JclV52qhSz6tn0; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 09:30:53 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <20220117021613.a8918d90ff61acef1dec9350@gmail.com> Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=zelphirkaltstahl@posteo.de; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-user" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.user:17962 Archived-At: On 1/17/22 3:16 AM, Chris Vine wrote: > On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 20:39:47 +0000 > Zelphir Kaltstahl wrote: > >> Thanks for the example link and the explanations! I'll try to learn from the >> example. >> >> Best regards, >> Zelphir >> >> On 1/16/22 5:45 PM, Luis Felipe wrote: >>> On Sunday, January 16th, 2022 at 1:37 PM, Zelphir Kaltstahl wrote: >>> >>>> Which things are part of GTK and which things are part of Gnome? Currently my >>>> picture is: GTK contains all the GUI things and Gnome the data things. For >>>> example: GTK might contain some date picker dialog or popup or whatever, but the >>>> datatype for date itself would be part of Gnome. "GDate". As such Gnome provides >>>> a sort of common datatypes basis, which could be used by other frameworks as >>>> well (and maybe is?). >>> Maybe this can serve as an overview of where is everything: >>> >>> For generic GTK apps (not necessarily targeted at GNOME): https://www.gtk.org/docs/apis/ >>> >>> For GTK apps that integrate well with GNOME: https://developer.gnome.org/documentation/introduction/components.html >>> >>> Also, for new projects, if you would like your app to adapt well to different screens, like modern web apps do, maybe take a look at libhandy (https://gnome.pages.gitlab.gnome.org/libhandy/) and libadwaita (https://gnome.pages.gitlab.gnome.org/libadwaita/doc/). The latter, if I understand correctly will replace the former. >>> >>> Also, note that Glade (https://glade.gnome.org/) only supports GTK 3, and there doesn't seem to be any plans to support GTK 4, so people seem to be writing GUIs by hand in GTK 4 projects. > Can you please not top post? > > The posting to which you have replied has not appeared with me. But it > (and the comments concerned) have nothing to do with gobject-introspection > or guile-gi. "Understanding guile-gi" still appears as the notional title > of this thread so if you want to change the subject you might want also to > change the title to avoid complete confusion. > Hi Chris! By "top post" you mean writing an answer or a reply above the part, that is quoted? I assume so. I have only quoted e-mail text, which immediately has to do with my original question and a subject, which I myself chose. So I don't know how you can possibly get the idea, that those have nothing to do with the topic. Perhaps the confusion stems from something in your e-mail client, that displays top posted replies weirdly? In my e-mail client it is very clear, what is quoted text and what is the reply. I am unaware of the specific problem, potentially caused by "top posting". I am also not "changing" the subject here. Or do you mean "If you ever want to change the subject, it would be better to do have the posts be written in a different way."? I am replying to someone, who replied to my topic starter e-mail. I am not intending to change the title at the moment. Lastly, I was not aware, that there is a "bottom post" rule or convention on this mailing list. If that is indeed the case, I will try to remember in the future. Thanks for the hint. Regards, Zelphir -- repositories: https://notabug.org/ZelphirKaltstahl