From: David Malcolm <dmalcolm-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Maxime Devos
<maximedevos-CNXmb7IdZIWZIoH1IeqzKA@public.gmane.org>,
Basile Starynkevitch
<basile-VdE74OAlGqnvXjIo7pOF+l6hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org>,
Nala Ginrut <nalaginrut-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Hakan Candar
<hakancandar-g/b1ySJe57IN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "guile-user-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org"
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Subject: Re: Running Compiled Guile Objects
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2024 20:43:31 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f55c57f36c7bbba0f704101a8afd68da08cd41bc.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241215004310.onj82D0091dDhme01nj9u5-Pw8LEBfqDLYI1J5xXzd7/dsHW6RRjAQv@public.gmane.org>
On Sun, 2024-12-15 at 00:43 +0100, Maxime Devos wrote:
> > > Those willing to contribute a proper ahead-of-time compiler to
> > > GNU
> > > guile could use the GNU CC libgccjit library which is part of the
> > > GCC
> > > compiler.
> > > https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/jit/
> >
> > ...and https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/JIT
> >
> > Indeed, it turns out that everyone using libgccjit is using it for
> > ahead-of-time compilation, rather than jit-compilation. Sorry
> > about
> > picking a bad name :)
>
> Are we talking about implementing a ‘to machine code’ compiler for
> Guile, or about implementing an ‘AOT to machine code’?
I confess I have no idea what the conversation was about; I was just
responding to Basile's email to the "jit" mailing list :)
> Guile already has the former – it has a JIT (bytecode -> machine
> code) for some systems.
>
> For what it’s worth -- I never worked with libgccjit or with the JIT
> code of Guile:
>
> I imagine a basic (POC) AOT approach for Guile would be to let it
> compile AOT – with the JIT implementation, except adjusted to be
> relocatable and to add relocation information. As far as I can tell,
> libgccjit does not seem to support relocations and doesn’t say
> anything about whether the results are position-independent or not
> (so not suitable fo AOT), though presumably there are ways around
> that given the existence of gccemacs.
FWIW libgccjit builds position independent code, and can be used to
build dynamic libraries (which is what I believe gccemacs is doing).
Dave
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2024-12-13 20:34 Running Compiled Guile Objects Hakan Candar via General Guile related discussions
2024-12-14 0:15 ` Nala Ginrut
2024-12-14 1:14 ` Keith Wright
2024-12-14 2:33 ` Nala Ginrut
2024-12-14 2:43 ` Nala Ginrut
2024-12-14 13:01 ` Maxime Devos via General Guile related discussions
2024-12-14 14:37 ` Nala Ginrut
2024-12-14 14:53 ` Maxime Devos via General Guile related discussions
2024-12-14 15:20 ` Nala Ginrut
2024-12-14 16:10 ` Maxime Devos via General Guile related discussions
2024-12-14 16:20 ` Nala Ginrut
2024-12-14 16:26 ` Nala Ginrut
2024-12-14 16:31 ` Nala Ginrut
2024-12-14 16:50 ` Maxime Devos via General Guile related discussions
2024-12-14 17:03 ` Nala Ginrut
2024-12-14 17:48 ` Maxime Devos via General Guile related discussions
2024-12-14 18:17 ` Nala Ginrut
[not found] ` <CAPjoZofH2QuH_ekSk2L=-sUtVTAfEBpsJS0HkXwA_J9y+Wmg0Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2024-12-14 17:11 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2024-12-14 17:21 ` AOT compiler (was: Running Compiled Guile Objects) Nala Ginrut
[not found] ` <49d9827f4455076cc066add3e51f0e882b59e9b7.camel@starynkevitch.net>
[not found] ` <CAPjoZoeu++mC+Syd35LjvLJVu6FEcZ=tb5jWdYgS0fZP-OHQiQ@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <CAPjoZoeu++mC+Syd35LjvLJVu6FEcZ=tb5jWdYgS0fZP-OHQiQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2024-12-15 1:59 ` Nala Ginrut
[not found] ` <CAPjoZodoBRcw28E5Zjnxb-f_aWG49LjOEDjKQptEH5RnxXsdvw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2024-12-15 2:08 ` Nala Ginrut
[not found] ` <CAPjoZof2pmNCQH1EQvJjFmUf+Fwt+qMd8y4daxkZMbCY9Bez+Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2024-12-15 7:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <86msgxs8d0.fsf-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org>
2024-12-15 8:07 ` Nala Ginrut
[not found] ` <CAPjoZoeBSvJrCDkDXgJX27Hr3Y3yAC4-mmMzKsuPnQvGwEjatQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2024-12-15 10:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <86ed29rzy1.fsf-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org>
2024-12-15 10:49 ` Nala Ginrut
[not found] ` <CAPjoZoc-8THB4BAPUFR2OayrvnSKhFtyOLWR64-jOfYxaJme2A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2024-12-15 10:58 ` tomas-2s+jgvIlYZ2ELgA04lAiVw
2024-12-15 11:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <86bjxdryzg.fsf-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org>
2024-12-15 11:09 ` Nala Ginrut
[not found] ` <CAPjoZodWGB+QMYABLr5cM_jN2Lpk3Ex-47snPnLBa3-TMZxQYw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2024-12-15 11:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <769073d434c2ed5fb7937c85da240aa5df4d854a.camel-VdE74OAlGqnvXjIo7pOF+l6hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org>
2024-12-14 23:02 ` Running Compiled Guile Objects David Malcolm
[not found] ` <fd04850b1d1b2b5e0c909b5b05d1d6a29a5cbd10.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2024-12-14 23:43 ` Maxime Devos
[not found] ` <20241215004310.onj82D0091dDhme01nj9u5-Pw8LEBfqDLYI1J5xXzd7/dsHW6RRjAQv@public.gmane.org>
2024-12-15 1:43 ` David Malcolm [this message]
2024-12-14 19:21 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-12-14 20:12 ` Matt Wette
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