From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Abou Samra Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: Curiosity: Microkernel implemented in Guile ? Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2022 00:30:28 +0200 Message-ID: References: <8735fujyi4.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9842"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.10.0 Cc: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" , Guile User To: Nala Ginrut Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 29 00:31:11 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o6Jjj-0002Se-RW for guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2022 00:31:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51728 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o6Jji-0001wU-1T for guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2022 18:31:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53414) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o6Jj8-0001wL-Mt for guile-user@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2022 18:30:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.10]:48129) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o6Jj6-0002cC-Ty for guile-user@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2022 18:30:34 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.1.46] ([82.65.251.18]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [212.227.15.184]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MyseC-1njiho2LZK-00vtsr; Wed, 29 Jun 2022 00:30:30 +0200 Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:jyGkFaUT3W9FtEsmT/QWRBhGzgPuFCoxmv0t+XagjtvUNS3RsdO Go/3yFcVDtZC5tFgahCBjX4zeG22Fb/hqriAODUAIA6L26h6owKyiIcSK7JKMsAhlbPXZRy gcwU7hBtcOTZHZelRrjdXAL0hO46y8OX+r8KOg8VmSBwnvH2ZTMd3+Fg3EiDIJYsJfqdGw8 4PmPRxcVAaIjBkR5qlnkA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:KXTee845FGU=:9XAD88/P9rUyZ6V+SvJpP8 9aDKP9zSgK+yD8hYIAm6m8iDvBnwSZLFr3eNvEPBksNTRZuoPiu8X1xLonpSoDLTZz8SMMkpC cHViNuxIs8DBRxncNrs0ini83h5hLUjztD+76uc0NGb4S/CtCFmhP35HtrAuTWk2XOt5TAiIt HogfUdnEXv3tFvtKzWVnanM1KG37ZOGtz/vINzwBlMBWItqtm/dBUiqZe0wnV4qDFWvK6oRKb jNRcK6wlclU8mQ4RxUbW4XKwD0gJyGy1drmNHEy19nZN4tjDwnzF9/dLUFhynHgMOIEaXnX1H cXfbi4BD0K8VjfXA6M2kdvKoIkVcpoYqvZwKtQR4fDhooiXBwGfjVaVKwRYlFFDvBc5P3tzNR Uizyqn+CyY0H3CvNn0Kx3d6V2oiUROyKDGbs0u4tvS08qDqdxVHWu9Ji4jKr1239FKyqZ5/s/ WJ7vrkMIWNHeUNoLduYwpmN/Ez0koytk18dHzQe0zGwHyXEgty8jK1ud/LoPkzoCe+cW5L87H 7SDiwu58F7kF3OdQ6+kt5UVKahN0a2Jaekv31rH+093snzSLO7HPnf7gSmMxLb9bZMAviFzJG T0SBrBcYBI1feTaT162wk8Ntz5Xug7tG0ZWxUqg0FuYyoqLDIbvTd/q/VrJ00gyHgRUyAvKhn Z2QTnsuPI/UdYcjf5er7SdPmvftqjYu+Qkjx6Q0cuFYFcQoXG8sYW15Yb6I24lDfoKJB18W04 P/CpR+ftxXnKpc5EhXvgizg/btZtix1a9Fg29Q== Received-SPF: none client-ip=212.227.17.10; envelope-from=jean@abou-samra.fr; helo=mout.kundenserver.de X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-user" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.user:18366 Archived-At: Le 26/06/2022 à 12:37, Nala Ginrut a écrit : > OK, let's face the issues, I encountered similar problems like what > you described. > > 1. To avoid the irritating compiling message, I have to use parameters > to rebind current-error-port. OK, interesting to know, thanks. > 2. Sometimes folks compile the Guile code and installed it in a wrong > load path, so when you run it, it will auto compile everthing again. This one is a real problem, but not one we're facing in LilyPond. > 3. The debug information seems broken for a long time, it's not good > to trace the error. But I don't think it's because of the design of > Guile, it's broken when Guile had upgraded the VM implementation. It > was good before that. Yes. I remember seeing the bug on debbugs, but I can't seem to find it right now. I recall that Mark H. Weaver commented that interpreted code went through primitive-eval on traditional expressions (not syntax objects). Best, Jean