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From: Marius Vollmer <mvo@zagadka.ping.de>
Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org, guile-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: macros, procedure->macro
Date: 09 Jul 2002 20:22:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <agf9mh$r1l$2@main.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.05.10207082223400.12632-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>

Dirk Herrmann <dirk@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de> writes:

> > > Removing these would change the interface.  According to our
> > > standard procedure, this would mean going through a phase of
> > > deprecating the corresponding functions.  However, this would mean,
> > > we could not actually proceed with working on the evaluator, since
> > > as long as those functions exist (even if deprecated) it is not
> > > possible to split up the evaluator.
> > 
> > Is it really impossible?  I'd say it can be done, as long as we have
> > 'local-eval'.
> 
> Could you explain how you think it should be done?  Especially how you
> think one should obtain the local environment during execution.

The local environment is just there during execution, isn't it?  We
need to keep using our current data structure for it that can be
searched for local variables.  We could not immediately switch to a
more streamlined data structure for environments that omits these
names.

Actually, we need only keep the old data structure for code that uses
"acros" or "macros".  This can be determined at memoization time.  So
if we are really want to switch to a different environment
representation, we can do that while still providing "acros" and
"macros", but it would probably too much work.

Then, when we have a 'traditional' environment, we can pass this
environment to the "acro" and "macro" transformers and use it to
memoize and execute the code returned by the "macro".

> In any case, I think it should be a temporary solution to be able to
> go through a phase of deprecation of acros and macros.

Yes.

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Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10207082223400.12632-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-07-09 18:22 ` Marius Vollmer [this message]
     [not found] <m3znws4nr2.fsf@laruns.ossau.uklinux.net>
2002-07-16 22:00 ` macros, procedure->macro Dirk Herrmann
     [not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10207142321410.23724-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-07-15 20:48 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-15 22:42 ` Neil Jerram
     [not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10207130841180.21201-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-07-14 15:23 ` Neil Jerram
2002-07-14 21:35   ` Dirk Herrmann
     [not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10207131148030.21457-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-07-13 18:38 ` Marius Vollmer
     [not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10207102338290.16926-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-07-13  9:53 ` Dirk Herrmann
     [not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10207102158440.16653-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-07-13  0:09 ` Neil Jerram
     [not found] ` <m3d6ts7akl.fsf@laruns.ossau.uklinux.net>
2002-07-13  2:36   ` Clinton Ebadi
2002-07-13  6:53   ` Dirk Herrmann
     [not found]   ` <200207122236.56581.unknown_lamer@unknownlamer.org>
2002-07-14 15:23     ` Neil Jerram
     [not found]     ` <m3r8i65o6a.fsf@laruns.ossau.uklinux.net>
2002-07-14 16:26       ` Marius Vollmer
     [not found]       ` <87fzymff8b.fsf@zagadka.ping.de>
2002-07-15  6:03         ` Rob Browning
     [not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10207102138580.16653-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-07-10 20:08 ` Marius Vollmer
     [not found] <m3d6tv99dp.fsf@laruns.ossau.uklinux.net>
2002-07-10 20:03 ` Dirk Herrmann
     [not found] <87hej7mlc3.fsf@zagadka.ping.de>
2002-07-10 19:57 ` Dirk Herrmann
     [not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10207100709220.15376-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-07-10 19:31 ` Marius Vollmer
     [not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10207100727490.15376-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-07-10 10:15 ` Neil Jerram
     [not found] <m3fzysa9fe.fsf@laruns.ossau.uklinux.net>
2002-07-10  5:46 ` Dirk Herrmann
     [not found] <87ptxwdamm.fsf@zagadka.ping.de>
2002-07-10  5:21 ` Dirk Herrmann
     [not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10207012134500.15843-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-07-01 20:27 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-07-03 20:02   ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-01 21:30 ` Rob Browning
2002-07-01 22:14 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-01 22:17 ` Gary Houston
2002-07-09 21:16 ` Neil Jerram
     [not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10207082202540.12632-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-07-09 18:13 ` Marius Vollmer
     [not found] <87r8if77a6.fsf@zagadka.ping.de>
2002-07-08 20:31 ` Dirk Herrmann
     [not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10207042204110.5534-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-07-07 18:15 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-08 20:23   ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-10 21:54   ` Dirk Herrmann
     [not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10207032208310.27679-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-07-07 17:54 ` Marius Vollmer
     [not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10207032204140.27679-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-07-04 20:16 ` Dirk Herrmann
     [not found] <87k7ofb0h2.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org>
2002-07-03 20:24 ` Dirk Herrmann
     [not found] <87adpbxfio.fsf@zagadka.ping.de>
2002-07-03 20:11 ` Dirk Herrmann
     [not found] <200207012220.PAA08054@onyx.he.net>
2002-07-03 20:08 ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-01 19:56 Dirk Herrmann

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