From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chris Bitmead Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: Guile and MS-Windows on Major Govt. Project... Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 22:47:32 +1000 Sender: guile-user-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <3D1B1DCD.7090500@bitmead.com> <200206302346.11902.unknown_lamer@unknownlamer.org> <3D20E140.6050003@bitmead.com> <200207012113.58958.unknown_lamer@unknownlamer.org> <5.0.2.1.2.20020702112242.00b16ad0@zima.bbn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1025700558 17728 127.0.0.1 (3 Jul 2002 12:49:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 12:49:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org, guile-user@gnu.org, Timothy Hickey Return-path: Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17PjZN-0004bo-00 for ; Wed, 03 Jul 2002 14:49:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17PjYB-0001Sh-00; Wed, 03 Jul 2002 08:48:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.netspeed.com.au ([203.31.48.12]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17PjXm-0001Q4-00; Wed, 03 Jul 2002 08:47:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [210.11.147.158] by MAIL.netspeed.com.au (NTMail 5.06.0016/NU0474.00.d45cc3bb) with ESMTP id cqtlnbaa for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 22:47:44 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020530 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: Ken Anderson Errors-To: guile-user-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.user:696 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.guile.user:696 Yeah, ok well they should be considered. But jscheme is an interpreter within an interpreter == unnecessarily slow. None of them technically are Scheme (no call/cc, blurry picture on full tail calls etc). Kawa's type system makes it rather inconvenient to use Java libraries like Swing (strings in kawa are not strings in java etc). Neither have built in a nice CLOS-ish object system which makes life worth living. Let me put it this way: Is Full-Scheme-Language+CLOS+portable convenient gui on Windows+Linux too much to ask? Ken Anderson wrote: > At 10:41 AM 7/2/2002, Chris Bitmead wrote: > >> Hmm, just checked out PLT-Scheme. The Gui is so limited it doesn't >> even have something like a grid or table widget. And for this app >> it's very visual I need a pretty good set of widgets, including some >> kind of grid. And the OO system looks more awful to me the longer I >> look at it, but I guess I could live with it if the gui was ok. >> >> Is there any scheme out there with some decent cross-platform gui >> support, and works on at least Windows and Unix, preferably Mac too? >> Am I asking so much? > > Not at all. There are several Schemes implemented in Java that should > let you do portable gui development easily. Here are 3: > > http://www.gnu.org/software/kawa/ > http://jscheme.sourceforge.net/jscheme/mainwebpage.html > http://sisc.sourceforge.net/ > > I use Jscheme. > > > _______________________________________________ > Guile-devel mailing list > Guile-devel@gnu.org > http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/guile-devel _______________________________________________ Guile-user mailing list Guile-user@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/guile-user