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From: Bruce Korb <bkorb@pacbell.net>
Cc: Marius Vollmer <mvo@zagadka.ping.de>,
	guile-devel@gnu.org, guile-user@gnu.org,
	Greg Troxel <gdt@ir.bbn.com>
Subject: Re: The Guile license and the use of LGPL libs (like GMP).
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 10:01:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac0opn$nf4$2@main.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87vg9oqf5b.fsf_-_@raven.i.defaultvalue.org

Rob Browning wrote:
> > Dynamic linking is not entirely sufficient to comply with LGPL;
> > rights to modify for own use and reverse engineer to debug that use
> > must also be granted [[...]].  But I
> > maintain that departing from the guile exception is a substantial
> > philosophical shift.  Only free software weenies seem to use guile
> > as it is, so a change probably wouldn't hurt much.

I use guile.  My stuff *is* used in commercial environments
that is hostile to LGPL.  If you change and leave me with no
migration path, I'll wind up locked into a frozen version.
I suppose I could change to a Perl extension engine, but
that's real work....

> If the analysis is correct, then it seems like we have a few choices:
> 
>   1) Use (and require) GMP anyway and expect people to accomodate the
>      licensing changes.

No, please.

>   2) Use GMP, but have a configure switch that allows you to omit it,
>      either with fallback non-GMP bignum support, or perhaps no
>      bignums at all.

If this bypasses the licensing issue, great.

>   3) Ask the relevant parties whether or not they might be willing to
>      extend the guile exception to GMP, i.e. add a special Guile
>      clause to the GMP license.

Murky.  Probably legally okay, but businesses want to focus on
business and not wrestle with murky issues.

>   4) Abandon GMP and continue to do things ourselves.

Better than #1 or #3.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-05-16 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87ptzxp8le.fsf@zagadka.ping.de>
2002-05-16 15:35 ` The Guile license and the use of LGPL libs (like GMP) Rob Browning
     [not found] ` <87vg9oqf5b.fsf_-_@raven.i.defaultvalue.org>
2002-05-16 16:44   ` Greg Troxel
2002-05-16 17:01   ` Bruce Korb [this message]
     [not found]   ` <3CE3E5D8.A30C3197@pacbell.net>
2002-05-16 17:12     ` Rob Browning
     [not found]     ` <87elgcqanm.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org>
2002-05-21 19:55       ` Carl R. Witty
     [not found]       ` <v4j661hi8ce.fsf@bogomips.newtonlabs.com>
2002-05-21 23:44         ` Rob Browning
2002-05-16 17:21   ` Jeff Read
     [not found]   ` <20020516132133.A24385@gas-o>
2002-05-16 17:22     ` Rob Browning
     [not found]     ` <877km4qa7z.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org>
2002-05-16 17:42       ` Robert Uhl <ruhl@4dv.net>
2002-05-16 20:40       ` Jeff Read
     [not found]       ` <20020516164045.C24385@gas-o>
2002-05-16 23:17         ` Rob Browning
     [not found]         ` <874rh7n0ng.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org>
2002-05-16 23:35           ` Jeff Read
     [not found]           ` <20020516193535.A26480@gas-o>
2002-05-16 23:38             ` Robert Uhl <ruhl@4dv.net>
2002-05-17  1:33               ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-05-17  0:02             ` Rob Browning
2002-05-28 18:56           ` Marius Vollmer
     [not found]   ` <rmi8z6kavqi.fsf@fnord.ir.bbn.com>
2002-05-17 11:38     ` Bill Schottstaedt
2002-05-28 18:28   ` Marius Vollmer
     [not found]   ` <877klouny2.fsf@zagadka.ping.de>
2002-05-28 18:54     ` Bruce Korb
2002-05-28 18:58     ` Bill Gribble
2002-06-03 13:33       ` Greg Troxel
2002-06-03 22:25         ` Marius Vollmer
2002-06-04 11:22           ` Greg Troxel
2002-06-04 19:12             ` Marius Vollmer
2002-05-28 19:02     ` Rob Browning
     [not found]     ` <3CF3D274.978637CD@pacbell.net>
2002-05-28 19:23       ` Marius Vollmer
     [not found]       ` <87sn4ct6tj.fsf@zagadka.ping.de>
2002-05-28 19:39         ` Bruce Korb
     [not found]         ` <3CF3DCDD.D0CB1662@pacbell.net>
2002-05-28 19:54           ` Marius Vollmer
2002-05-28 19:54           ` Robert Uhl <ruhl@4dv.net>
     [not found]           ` <87d6vgt5dx.fsf@zagadka.ping.de>
2002-05-28 20:16             ` Bruce Korb
     [not found]             ` <3CF3E5A3.623870F7@pacbell.net>
2002-06-01 16:01               ` Marius Vollmer
     [not found]               ` <877klj0yzu.fsf@zagadka.ping.de>
2002-06-01 18:06                 ` Robert Uhl <ruhl@4dv.net>
2002-06-03 22:40                   ` Marius Vollmer
2002-06-04 14:38                     ` Robert Uhl <ruhl@4dv.net>

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