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From: Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@giblet.glug.org>
Cc: rlb@defaultvalue.org, guile-devel@gnu.org, guile-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [d.love@dl.ac.uk: dynamic loading of native code modules]
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 01:14:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a9r8f6$qvr$2@main.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3sn5vpf43.fsf@laruns.ossau.uklinux.net> (message from Neil Jerram on 16 Apr 2002 21:23:24 +0100)

   From: Neil Jerram <neil@ossau.uklinux.net>
   Date: 16 Apr 2002 21:23:24 +0100

   True, but I'm still slightly worried that one of the influences on
   {the set of people interested enough to maintain surrounding packages}
   might be a gradual trickle of incompatible changes in the core.

different users have different sensitivities to (interface) change.  for
some, any drop of incompatibility is like poison in the waterworks or
shameful rust buildup on an old tool, but others are not so allergic.
as a guile user, i tend to value the "hammer is clean and works the same
Always" approach (headbangers unite ;-).

   On the other hand, a project that doesn't change is a dead project,
   and packages that can't cope with a small amount of change may not be
   worth coddling, and I agree with you that the utility of recent
   additions and cleanups far exceeds that of Tcl/Tk and Ctax support.

it is useful to separate interface and implementation when discussion
change.  i would agree implementation change is inevitable and mostly
desirable, but not so easily taken wrt interface change.

guile users are all programmers who only marginally like hacking guile
itself.  interest can be motivated towards guile development by allowing
more guile users write privs, and practicing some mature process.

thi

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-04-20  8:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E16vpWV-0001wJ-00@giblet>
2002-04-13  8:50 ` [d.love@dl.ac.uk: dynamic loading of native code modules] Neil Jerram
2002-04-14  0:34 ` Rob Browning
     [not found] ` <m3n0w8ugmp.fsf@laruns.ossau.uklinux.net>
2002-04-14  0:58   ` Rob Browning
2002-04-14 21:30   ` Marius Vollmer
     [not found]   ` <874rifqeo8.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org>
2002-04-14 22:22     ` Neil Jerram
     [not found]     ` <m3bsclsyxn.fsf@laruns.ossau.uklinux.net>
2002-04-15  4:21       ` Rob Browning
2002-04-15 12:15       ` Marius Vollmer
     [not found]       ` <87lmbpiocf.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org>
2002-04-15 13:27         ` "byte compilers, was " Bill Schottstaedt
2002-04-24  7:34           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-04-16 20:23         ` Neil Jerram
     [not found]         ` <m3sn5vpf43.fsf@laruns.ossau.uklinux.net>
2002-04-17  5:25           ` Rob Browning
2002-04-20  8:14           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen [this message]
     [not found]           ` <E16yq0k-0003ji-00@giblet>
2002-04-20 11:07             ` Neil Jerram
     [not found]       ` <873cxxkvj8.fsf@zagadka.ping.de>
2002-04-16 20:24         ` Neil Jerram
     [not found]         ` <m3n0w3pf1n.fsf@laruns.ossau.uklinux.net>
2002-04-17  0:53           ` NIIBE Yutaka
2002-04-17  5:36           ` Rob Browning
     [not found]           ` <874riahonj.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org>
2002-04-17  5:43             ` Rob Browning
2002-04-20  7:53             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
     [not found]             ` <E16ypgs-0003jQ-00@giblet>
2002-04-21 15:20               ` Rob Browning
     [not found]               ` <87ofgdqdr9.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org>
2002-04-21 15:51                 ` Robert A. Uhl
     [not found]                 ` <20020421095106.A31437@4dv.net>
2002-04-21 16:27                   ` Rob Browning
2002-05-14  8:53                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-04-23 21:19             ` news
     [not found]           ` <200204170053.g3H0rX008200@mule.m17n.org>
2002-04-20  7:57             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
     [not found]   ` <87ads6nf1v.fsf@zagadka.ping.de>
2002-04-15 17:58     ` Andreas Rottmann
2002-04-24  0:52     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
     [not found]     ` <87it6s7sjz.fsf@alice.rhinosaur.lan>
2002-04-15 19:06       ` Marius Vollmer
2002-04-24  8:00       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
     [not found]       ` <E170Hh6-0007Y8-00@giblet>
2002-04-24 14:33         ` Rob Browning
     [not found]         ` <87662hkvya.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org>
2002-04-24 14:51           ` rm
     [not found]           ` <20020424145130.GC17392@www>
2002-04-24 15:14             ` Andreas Rottmann
2002-04-24 15:28             ` Rob Browning
     [not found]             ` <87y9fd5dsj.fsf@alice.rhinosaur.lan>
2002-04-24 15:48               ` Rob Browning
     [not found]               ` <87vgahjdwc.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org>
2002-04-24 16:15                 ` Bill Gribble
     [not found]                 ` <1019664949.936.80.camel@flophouse>
2002-04-24 16:24                   ` Rob Browning
2002-04-24 18:10                   ` Andreas Rottmann
     [not found]                   ` <87ofg955n8.fsf@alice.rhinosaur.lan>
2002-04-24 20:36                     ` Rob Browning
2002-04-25  2:05                       ` Joshua Judson Rosen
     [not found]                       ` <20020425020550.GL29646@linger.twisted-muse.org>
2002-04-25  3:03                         ` Rob Browning
2002-04-24 18:06                 ` Andreas Rottmann
     [not found]                 ` <87sn5l55us.fsf@alice.rhinosaur.lan>
2002-04-24 20:40                   ` Rob Browning
     [not found]                   ` <87sn5khlub.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org>
2002-04-24 20:53                     ` Andreas Rottmann
     [not found]                     ` <0204291926190H.10649@locke.free-expression.org>
2002-04-30  1:35                       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
     [not found]                       ` <E172MY6-0002fd-00@giblet>
2002-04-30  2:33                         ` Lynn Winebarger
2002-05-04  0:19                           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
     [not found]             ` <871yd5ktf5.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org>
2002-05-15  0:19               ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-04-24 18:34           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
     [not found]           ` <E170Rb4-0008B0-00@giblet>
2002-04-24 18:58             ` Rob Browning
     [not found]             ` <873cxkj54j.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org>
2002-04-25  5:32               ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-05-01  5:00           ` Lynn Winebarger
     [not found]           ` <0205010000300Q.10649@locke.free-expression.org>
2002-05-01 13:50             ` Rob Browning
2002-04-20  9:06   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
     [not found]   ` <E16yqp7-0003n6-00@giblet>
     [not found]     ` <m3elhasjez.fsf@laruns.ossau.uklinux.net>
2002-04-20 12:44       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-04-24  0:09   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
     [not found] ` <878z7rqfrg.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org>
2002-04-14  2:55   ` Rob Browning
2002-04-24  0:24   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
     [not found]   ` <E170AaI-00070x-00@giblet>
2002-04-24  5:25     ` Rob Browning
     [not found]     ` <87znztllbx.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org>
2002-05-14 10:57       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
     [not found]       ` <E177a03-0000H2-00@giblet>
2002-05-14 16:11         ` Bill Gribble
     [not found]         ` <1021392674.802.71.camel@flophouse>
2002-05-14 20:54           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-04-12  1:06 Thien-Thi Nguyen

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