From: tomas@tuxteam.de
To: Jean Abou Samra <jean@abou-samra.fr>
Cc: Mortimer Cladwell <mbcladwell@gmail.com>, guile-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Re: intern a top level variable
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 19:58:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZN0OXrKVrJ8gm2FH@tuxteam.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5306923bbfa46630b22c6dc978e89b60d0565ad9.camel@abou-samra.fr>
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On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 06:13:05PM +0200, Jean Abou Samra wrote:
> Le mercredi 16 août 2023 à 10:55 -0400, Mortimer Cladwell a écrit :
> > I would like to intern and assign a value within a method:
> >
> > (define (test-intern)
> > (let* ((name "abc")
> > (data "def")
> > (name-symbol (gensym name))
> > )
> > (pretty-print (string-append "symbol: " (symbol->string name-symbol)))
> > (set! name-symbol data)))
> >
> > scheme@(guile-user)> (test-intern)
> > "symbol: abc3301"
> > scheme@(guile-user)> abc3301
> > ;;; <unknown-location>: warning: possibly unbound variable `abc3301'
> > ERROR: In procedure module-lookup: Unbound variable: abc3301
>
>
> Sorry, but it's not clear to me what you mean by "intern and assign a value",
> and I don't think it will be clear to someone else.
>
> Can you be more precise please?
I think what the OP wants is to make a binding for
an existing symbol. Something, perhaps like
scheme@(guile-user)> (define foovar (gensym "foo"))
scheme@(guile-user)> foovar
$1 = foo170
scheme@(guile-user)> (module-add! (current-module) foovar (make-variable 42))
scheme@(guile-user)> foo170
$2 = 42
(note that the "top level" is Just Another Module).
Mortimer: is that what you were looking for? Note that
"you usually don't do this" (whatever that means), so
it'd make sense to take a step back and think about what
you are trying to achieve :-)
> I don't understand why you expect "abc3301" to be bound after running (test-
> intern). That (test-intern) call just creates a symbol, which is interned as a
> symbol, meaning that creating another (interned) symbol with the same name will
> reuse the same symbol value. But there is no reason why it shoud be bound to a
> variable. Symbol interning just applies to symbols as values, it has nothing to
> do with variables.
In any case it would make sense to revisit the concepts
of "symbol", "variable" and "binding". It's subtle, but
in Lispy lands it is indispensable.
Cheers
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Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-16 14:55 Re: intern a top level variable Mortimer Cladwell
2023-08-16 16:13 ` Jean Abou Samra
2023-08-16 17:58 ` tomas [this message]
2023-08-16 19:17 ` Mortimer Cladwell
2023-08-16 20:35 ` Taylan Kammer
2023-08-17 6:07 ` Mortimer Cladwell
2023-08-20 13:56 ` Jean Abou Samra
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