From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thamer Al-Harbash Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: apt based package dist for guile? Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 13:29:28 -0400 (EDT) Sender: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87he51mx3y.fsf@tapsellferrier.co.uk> <87y8y9yfp2.fsf@tapsellferrier.co.uk> <20030805134523.GB1785@linger.twisted-muse.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1060106477 14994 80.91.224.253 (5 Aug 2003 18:01:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 18:01:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-user@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 05 20:01:36 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19k67s-0004w1-00 for ; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 20:01:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19k5da-00072v-Ak for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 13:30:18 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19k5d3-0006zY-8R for guile-user@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 13:29:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19k5cV-0006qQ-Lf for guile-user@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 13:29:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [216.254.175.50] (helo=helena.whitefang.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.20) id 19k5cV-0006pk-5Y for guile-user@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 13:29:11 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 48640 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2003 17:29:28 -0000 Original-Received: from helena.whitefang.com (216.254.175.50) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Aug 2003 17:29:28 -0000 X-X-Sender: shadows@helena.whitefang.com Original-To: Joshua Judson Rosen In-Reply-To: <20030805134523.GB1785@linger.twisted-muse.org> X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.user:2152 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.guile.user:2152 On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: > On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 12:31:53PM -0400, Thamer Al-Harbash wrote: > > > I'd sooner stick a needle in my eye than use a CPAN like system. > > Why is that? Sorry for the knee jerk reaction. This isn't the forum to knock other packaging systems. There are too many reasons to list. I could probably discuss the pros and cons for hours. Suffice it to say that for operating systems which you want to ship to users and keep up to date yourself, using a packaging system with automatic dependency tracking is great. For a programming environment this is not the case. Making this inpersonal, automatic, and "always up to date" is not necessarily good. You go from shipping a really nice Scheme interpreter/library to shipping a virtual plastform. My own feeling is that there should be a maintainer or two that keeps track of stable guile software and keep a directory up to date. This process can also be automated by having programmers submit their projects for listing. We already have freshmeat, and the Free Software Directory. These two directories can serve this purpose well enough as it is. -- Thamer Al-Harbash GPG Key fingerprint: D7F3 1E3B F329 8DD5 FAE3 03B1 A663 E359 D686 AA1F "to understand recursion first one must understand recursion" _______________________________________________ Guile-user mailing list Guile-user@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/guile-user