From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Matt Wette Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: You missed my later work Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 16:51:03 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87fuhtc9y9.fsf@ITSx00.pdp10.guru> <8760hqui0i.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1493337099 10441 195.159.176.226 (27 Apr 2017 23:51:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 23:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-user@gnu.org, Jeremiah@pdp10.guru, epsilon-devel@gnu.org To: Jan Nieuwenhuizen Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 28 01:51:30 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d3tC5-0002Wz-Qk for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 01:51:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34655 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d3tCA-0002k7-3x for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 19:51:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33705) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d3tBo-0002jp-86 for guile-user@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 19:51:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d3tBm-0001I2-VE for guile-user@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 19:51:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pg0-x244.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c05::244]:36441) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d3tBj-0001Cw-ID; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 19:51:07 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pg0-x244.google.com with SMTP id v1so2595330pgv.3; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 16:51:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=y6PHL/nJ0jQql0Bbo57SB6akoM7c3ViF2U4Tdw8A+mo=; b=grpfs37+xMtHH2gFWSzyzTY3EVX1usuDnKVgP1+gcB3ue8h05UpWm2iWT9VxEr27X3 v75gqhikJCdCfeNOqQFigndV7hRR5D+9M1/5R7T+xk++v+wajZajNlvKJBvQWd8qfrz3 jFHtqKvYraPS613AKs6UN44VYN4IG/973ADBBI1EeZBn6bTzpQoK9MFJgbX6KjVTsIb2 KupALacOM0Tnn1fvWsSaLoEdTbsn/wYhUc9CZykkiX2Od39tAvS0fmpSUxb0f2fnmOal wUdi4cujz4DocOskC9fTtPfyVHTz82tZ/kR1o6KdJRIlinjSl/o1CmHQzCiSt0KMAsLe W5kg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=y6PHL/nJ0jQql0Bbo57SB6akoM7c3ViF2U4Tdw8A+mo=; b=N1/8RIvekw96bKlJvKz/hblM4dQk99bF0kes2KKQpoDjPGkG5WizCM8+fz3hItPF9Q fj3hQ+ZQiCP4UyMX0LhL5jp9E4/KOao7yOzGQCsNL0MUPx4Y96fD+uwkdV+FsZaIFeqV Tg1p6EQ5pMQUTx4dUq4jDxhMf91850okkey+d2QjPLLOYNmmedK3vtaio7yIBRe2pKz+ ggqcObA+l5bSeOU9wlfzNkNuIJRZdQUCiavf/zDm7r1mdJxzxGKECf0dchQnQN77M+Pe dBOWHAwonvLyOnbsUHSmcKMNk+8Xs+pZKBg4P87aAt1A9MGTA+aX7kQraEQV4tV+1YfS dtfg== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/6bxRUkEOoO1maeE/CEaDqyRC8HEM+eaalorMUY0XJWGUJ69R0P wf5xRfzxn03NQKEOse4= X-Received: by 10.84.136.131 with SMTP id 3mr6322663pll.181.1493337065820; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 16:51:05 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.2.114] (216-165-236-44.championbroadband.com. [216.165.236.44]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f18sm6211422pfa.130.2017.04.27.16.51.04 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 27 Apr 2017 16:51:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8760hqui0i.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c05::244 X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-user" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.user:13646 Archived-At: > On Apr 27, 2017, at 5:55 AM, Jan Nieuwenhuizen = wrote: >=20 >=20 > [cc: Matt, author of Nyacc] >=20 >> Well now you could have told them we already had the forth >> https://github.com/oriansj/stage0/blob/master/stage2/forth.s >> but none of the people in the forth community bothered to build upon = it >=20 > You created a fully bootstrappable LISP and FORTH, wow! >=20 > That would make my answer easier; I started with Scheme/Lisp because > you have to start somewhere, and I like that better. >=20 >> For example break up the C compiler problem into pieces, for example >> have a seperate C preprocessor, a single file C compiler that only >> produces assembly and just leverage the already existing assembly >> infrastructure I already made. >=20 > That could open up new possibilities. However, there are so many > choices, is this going to help us get forward right now? >=20 >> I honestly feel that is absolutely something that has to be done. >> However, you'll have to constrain yourself to what language features = in >> C that you use to make the path from what I have completed to what is >> required possible. >>=20 >> Some questions I have are as follows: >> 1) Could the C preprocessor componet of Nyacc be isolated and = simplified >> enough to run on stage0's lisp interpreter and solve the C = preprocessor >> question? >=20 > @Matt: would separating the cpp part from Nyacc be feasible? Do you > also think that's helpful? >=20 Not sure what you are asking. Do you want a standalone CPP or a = CPP-less C parser?