emacs interaction

emacs interaction

[Matt Wette]

I have searched the archives for information on using guile in emacs and not much besides the guile-emacs project.

Q1) I have used GDS to run guile in emacs.  Not perfect but usable.  Comments?  I'm using with the emacs "scheme" mode.

Q2) Emacs is not indenting define-module elements like I'd like.   Does anyone have experience with this or suggestions?

my emacs will indent as follows
(define-module (mymod)
  #:export (blablabla foo bar
                 a b c)
  #:export-syntax (blablablam foom barm
                                               am bm cm)
  )

Matt

P.S.  I'm getting back in because I just got 2.0.11 to build after so long trying (macos).
     

Re: emacs interaction

[Panicz Maciej Godek]

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2014-09-20 5:33 GMT+02:00 Matt Wette <mwette@alumni.caltech.edu>:

> I have searched the archives for information on using guile in emacs and
> not much besides the guile-emacs project.
>
> Q1) I have used GDS to run guile in emacs.  Not perfect but usable.
> Comments?  I'm using with the emacs "scheme" mode.
>
>
The best package for interacting guile (and racket) from emacs I know is
geiser:
http://www.nongnu.org/geiser/

It is also available in Debian/Ubuntu repository, so installation on those
distributions is particularly easy, and you only need to add
(require 'geiser-install) to your .emacs file.

Once you're done with that, you run guile using M-x run-guile, and racket
using M-x run-racket and you get various hints in your minibuffer and use
C-x C-e to evaluate "the last s-exp"

You may also wish to set
(setq geiser-repl-use-other-window nil)

and

(defadvice save-buffers-kill-emacs (around no-query-kill-emacs activate)
  "Prevent annoying \"Active processes exist\" query when you quit Emacs."
  (flet ((process-list ())) ad-do-it))

Regards

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Re: emacs interaction

[Jose A. Ortega Ruiz]

On Sat, Sep 20 2014, Panicz Maciej Godek wrote:

> 2014-09-20 5:33 GMT+02:00 Matt Wette <mwette@alumni.caltech.edu>:
>
>     I have searched the archives for information on using guile in
>     emacs and not much besides the guile-emacs project.
>    
>     Q1) I have used GDS to run guile in emacs.  Not perfect but
>     usable.  Comments?  I'm using with the emacs "scheme" mode.
>
> The best package for interacting guile (and racket) from emacs I know
> is geiser: http://www.nongnu.org/geiser/
> 
> It is also available in Debian/Ubuntu repository, so installation on
> those distributions is particularly easy, and you only need to add
> (require 'geiser-install) to your .emacs file.
>
> Once you're done with that, you run guile using M-x run-guile, and
> racket using M-x run-racket and you get various hints in your
> minibuffer and use C-x C-e to evaluate "the last s-exp"
>
> You may also wish to set
> (setq geiser-repl-use-other-window nil)
>
> and
>
> (defadvice save-buffers-kill-emacs (around no-query-kill-emacs activate)
>   "Prevent annoying \"Active processes exist\" query when you quit Emacs."
>   (flet ((process-list ())) ad-do-it))

or, in recent enough geiser versions, just:

   (setq geiser-repl-query-on-kill-p nil)

cheers,
jao
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Re: emacs interaction

[Thien-Thi Nguyen]

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() Matt Wette <mwette@alumni.caltech.edu>
() Fri, 19 Sep 2014 20:33:20 -0700

   Q2) Emacs is not indenting define-module elements like I'd like.

   my emacs will indent as follows
   (define-module (mymod)
     #:export (blablabla foo bar
                    a b c)
     #:export-syntax (blablablam foom barm
                                                  am bm cm)
     )

That is really weird.  Maybe the mail system(s) mangled it?

   Does anyone have experience with this or suggestions?

It would help to post an example (w/ tabs converted to spaces)
showing what you desire.  That way we have a clear goal.

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                               (not (via 'mailing-list)))
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Re: emacs interaction

[Matt Wette]

On Sep 20, 2014, at 12:30 AM, Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnu.org> wrote:
> It would help to post an example (w/ tabs converted to spaces)
> showing what you desire.  That way we have a clear goal.

I get
(define-module (mymod)
  #:export (blablabla foo bar
                 a b c)
  #:export-syntax (blablablam foom barm
                                               am bm cm)
  )

I want 
(define-module (mymod)
  #:export (blablabla foo bar
                 a b c)
  #:export-syntax (blablablam foom barm
                             am bm cm)
  )

Re: emacs interaction

[Mark H Weaver]

Matt Wette <mwette@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:

> On Sep 20, 2014, at 12:30 AM, Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnu.org> wrote:
>> It would help to post an example (w/ tabs converted to spaces)
>> showing what you desire.  That way we have a clear goal.
>
> I get
> (define-module (mymod)
>   #:export (blablabla foo bar
>                  a b c)
>   #:export-syntax (blablablam foom barm
>                                                am bm cm)
>   )
>
> I want 
> (define-module (mymod)
>   #:export (blablabla foo bar
>                  a b c)
>   #:export-syntax (blablablam foom barm
>                              am bm cm)
>   )

I'm fairly sure we're not seeing the same thing you're seeing in this
email.  It looks as though perhaps you've written the email with a
variable-width font, and used enough spaces on the continuation lines to
make things line up properly on your display, whereas many of us are
viewing this email with a fixed-width font, and nothing lines up at all.

The following web page might show you what your email looks like to us:

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-user/2014-09/msg00093.html

     Regards,
       Mark

Re: emacs interaction

[Matt Wette]

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Yes.  I am using the mac.  I tried to encode as "Plain Text" but that didn't seem to work.
I hope this is better.

On Sep 20, 2014, at 10:29 PM, Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> wrote:

> Matt Wette <mwette@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2014, at 12:30 AM, Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnu.org> wrote:
>>> It would help to post an example (w/ tabs converted to spaces)
>>> showing what you desire.  That way we have a clear goal.
>> 
>> I get
>> (define-module (mymod)
>>  #:export (blablabla foo bar
>>                 a b c)
>>  #:export-syntax (blablablam foom barm
>>                                               am bm cm)
>>  )
>> 
>> I want 
>> (define-module (mymod)
>>  #:export (blablabla foo bar
>>                 a b c)
>>  #:export-syntax (blablablam foom barm
>>                             am bm cm)
>>  )
> 
> I'm fairly sure we're not seeing the same thing you're seeing in this
> email.  It looks as though perhaps you've written the email with a
> variable-width font, and used enough spaces on the continuation lines to
> make things line up properly on your display, whereas many of us are
> viewing this email with a fixed-width font, and nothing lines up at all.
> 
> The following web page might show you what your email looks like to us:
> 
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-user/2014-09/msg00093.html
> 
>     Regards,
>       Mark


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Re: emacs interaction

[Thien-Thi Nguyen]

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() Matt Wette <mwette@alumni.caltech.edu>
() Sun, 21 Sep 2014 07:11:33 -0700

   Yes.  I am using the mac.  I tried to encode as "Plain Text"
   but that didn't seem to work.  I hope this is better.

Unfortunately, it still looks weird to me.  Could you describe
(w/ words) the desired result?  BTW, how familiar are you w/
Emacs Lisp?  (Maybe help-gnu-emacs at the usual GNU domain
would net you a better response.)

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   (if you're human and you know it)
      read my lisp: (responsep (questions 'technical)
                               (not (via 'mailing-list)))
                     => nil

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Re: emacs interaction

[Matt Wette]

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On Oct 4, 2014, at 3:58 AM, Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnu.org> wrote:

> () Matt Wette <mwette@alumni.caltech.edu>
> () Sun, 21 Sep 2014 07:11:33 -0700
> 
>   Yes.  I am using the mac.  I tried to encode as "Plain Text"
>   but that didn't seem to work.  I hope this is better.
> 
> Unfortunately, it still looks weird to me.  Could you describe
> (w/ words) the desired result?  BTW, how familiar are you w/
> Emacs Lisp?  (Maybe help-gnu-emacs at the usual GNU domain
> would net you a better response.)

Now the behavior is a bit different.  I'm getting extra indentation below #:export.

I have attached an image of my emacs window.

Matt

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Re: emacs interaction

[Carlos Pita]

Hi Matt,

I didn't know about GDS, but why don't you just try geiser? It interacts
very nicely with the repl, gives you a number of typical conveniences,
it's pretty well documented (and the docs are even funny :)) and it
integrates well with scheme-mode. Even the guile guide recommends it.

Cheers
--
Carlos

> I have searched the archives for information on using guile in emacs and not much besides the guile-emacs project.
>
> Q1) I have used GDS to run guile in emacs.  Not perfect but usable.  Comments?  I'm using with the emacs "scheme" mode.
>
> Q2) Emacs is not indenting define-module elements like I'd like.   Does anyone have experience with this or suggestions?
>
> my emacs will indent as follows
> (define-module (mymod)
>   #:export (blablabla foo bar
>                  a b c)
>   #:export-syntax (blablablam foom barm
>                                                am bm cm)
>   )
>
> Matt
>
> P.S.  I'm getting back in because I just got 2.0.11 to build after so long trying (macos).
>