From: Nala Ginrut <nalaginrut@gmail.com>
To: Guile User <guile-user@gnu.org>
Cc: basile@starynkevitch.net
Subject: AOT compiler (was: Running Compiled Guile Objects)
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2024 02:21:32 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPjoZodf_oUNu1yZBnj8g9d5+CsEXDprC20fzMaRd1mHXok5FA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <769073d434c2ed5fb7937c85da240aa5df4d854a.camel@starynkevitch.net>
@basile I'm glad you raise this topic, I've played lobgccjit with a toy
project.
https://gitlab.com/hardenedlinux/screaming-fist
I would say libgccjit is a wrong name since it's more like a tool for AOT.
Of course, one may still use it for JIT, however you have to do your own
work for JIT and finally use libgccjit for codegen. 😁
Best regards.
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From: Basile Starynkevitch <basile@starynkevitch.net>
Date: Sun, Dec 15, 2024, 02:11
Subject: Re: Running Compiled Guile Objects
To: Nala Ginrut <nalaginrut@gmail.com>, Hakan Candar <
hakancandar@protonmail.com>
Cc: guile-user@gnu.org <guile-user@gnu.org>, <jit@gcc.gnu.org>
On Sat, 2024-12-14 at 09:15 +0900, Nala Ginrut wrote:
> Hi Hakan!
> The current Guile is not AOT yet. Although the object file is ELF,
> it's
> just bytecode wrapped ELF header. So you can't run it as a regular
> executable file.
>
Those willing to contribute a proper ahead-of-time compiler to GNU
guile could use the GNU CC libgccjit library which is part of the GCC
compiler.
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/jit/
This libgccjit layer of the GCC compiler is stable and maintained C API
and has some obsolete C++ API (which seems unmaintained in december
2024). Most of the libgccjit code is internally coded (under GPL
license) in C++, but the stable API is for C.
I am using the C API of libgccjit in the RefPerSys open source
inference engine project (GPLv3+ licensed) on
https://github.com/RefPerSys/RefPerSys/
Both libgccjit and GNU lightning (see
https://www.gnu.org/software/lightning/ ...) could be a basis for
adding a genuine compilation layer to GNU guile. And RefPerSys uses
both.
I guess a significant issue would be to use libgccjit (or GNU
lightning) with GUILE's garbage collector (which seems to be Boehm
conservative GC).
The RefPerSys project has a precise garbage collector and some
persistence (to textual files). Since it is GPLv3+ licensed, its code
could be reused in a future GUILE major version. RefPerSys is mostly
coded in C++.
I did contribute to GCC long time ago and hope that RefPerSys could
become a GNU project (but don't know how to make that happen)
Regards from near Paris in France.
--
Basile STARYNKEVITCH <basile@starynkevitch.net>
8 rue de la Faïencerie
92340 Bourg-la-Reine, France
http://starynkevitch.net/Basile & https://github.com/bstarynk
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2024-12-13 20:34 Running Compiled Guile Objects Hakan Candar via General Guile related discussions
2024-12-14 0:15 ` Nala Ginrut
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2024-12-15 1:59 ` AOT compiler (was: Running Compiled Guile Objects) Nala Ginrut
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2024-12-14 23:02 ` Running Compiled Guile Objects David Malcolm
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2024-12-14 23:43 ` Maxime Devos
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