From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nala Ginrut Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: Curiosity: Microkernel implemented in Guile ? 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I think I have to clarify that I agree that Scheme is good for low-level, depends on implementation. But we are talking about Guile, and Guile was not designed for that purpose, it's dedicated to extend C program, so the better choice is to extend a C microkernel with Guile. That is what it was designed for, originally. On Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 18:09 Nala Ginrut wrote: > Personally, I don't think Guile (as Scheme) is suitable for a system level > language for low-level programming. But it's a good choice to use Guile to > extend a C implemented microkernel. > > Such a design, is actually the real GNU operating system described in > imagination. So the question should be: is there any attempt to write GNU > Hurd binding with Guile, and implement the multi server OS to complete GNU? > > I never heard of such a libre project, but I do think it's worth to try. > > Best regards. > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 14:12 Matias Jose Seco Baccanelli < > matias_jose_seco@autoproduzioni.net> wrote: > >> Good morning Guilers! >> Being a huge fan of Libre Software and Guile powers, i was having a big >> curiosity in regards to the kernel languages arena: >> was ever made an attempt to implement a Microkernel from scratch in >> Guile language ? >> Isn't a cool mix the functional approach of Guile and the modular one >> of Microkernel ? (and loads of more features i suppose!) >> >> Feels like a nice recipe for User Empowerment ! >> Just asking as a total beginner on this topic, >> Happy Hacking! >> Matias >> >>