From: Panicz Maciej Godek <godek.maciek@gmail.com>
To: Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>
Cc: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>,
"guile-user@gnu.org" <guile-user@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: cannot compile: srfi-10 define-reader-ctor 'hash '#,(
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:58:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMFYt2bud2EPVbXPeApjWD1J=YW8_ou9uHcR8dX27RpseBwQvg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877g2bteeu.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net>
2014-08-14 14:59 GMT+02:00 Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>:
> Panicz Maciej Godek <godek.maciek@gmail.com>:
>
>>> I disagree. S-expressions far surpass whatever the others have to offer.
>>
>> You disagree on which point exactly?
>> - that using dictionaries is programmers' daily bread?
>
> No, we are talking about the external representation of hash tables. I'm
> saying the alist format is sufficient to communicate the abstract
> contents of hash tables or any other mapping. You don't need any new
> representation format for hash tables -- or I can't think of a use case.
I agree that it is sufficient. It's just that it isn't handy.
It's more succinct to write
x = {a : 5, b : 10} ...
or
(let ((x '{(a . 5)(b . 10)}))
...)
or
(let ((x '((a . 5)(b . 10))))
...)
than
(let ((x (alist->hash-table '((a . 5)(b . 10)))))
...)
Also, there's less that you (as a programmer) need to memoize, because
otherwise you'd need to check the documentation if it's
alist->hash-table or alist->hash-map or something else. Furthermore,
using alist->hash-table and hash-table->alist adds no value to your
program -- it's there only to optimize lookups, compared to assoc-ref
and assoc-set!, and essentialy has no impact on the semantics of your
program.
(however, weak hash-tables are an exception, because they represent a
concept that wouldn't otherwise be representable using alists)
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2014-07-05 13:40 ` cannot compile: srfi-10 define-reader-ctor 'hash '#,( Ludovic Courtès
2014-07-31 6:27 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2014-07-31 19:15 ` Neil Jerram
2014-08-14 10:27 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-08-14 19:42 ` Neil Jerram
2014-08-14 19:54 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-08-17 15:08 ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-08-11 15:48 ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-08-13 19:59 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2014-08-13 20:43 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2014-08-13 21:00 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2014-08-13 21:13 ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-08-13 21:33 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2014-08-14 4:03 ` Mark H Weaver
2014-08-13 21:06 ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-08-14 9:19 ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2014-08-14 9:53 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2014-08-14 10:30 ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2014-08-14 10:36 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2014-08-14 10:45 ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2014-08-14 12:59 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2014-08-14 13:58 ` Panicz Maciej Godek [this message]
2014-08-14 11:13 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-08-14 13:17 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2014-08-14 14:34 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-08-14 17:16 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2014-08-14 18:28 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-08-14 19:24 ` Marko Rauhamaa
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