From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Blake Shaw Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: Curiosity: Microkernel implemented in Guile ? Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2022 09:49:02 +0700 Message-ID: References: <20220623081120.091b84b7.matias_jose_seco@autoproduzioni.net> <1614daa41ab3566163045f571a4ca007cd8bc417.camel@telenet.be> <20220702114724.4dc935ca.matias_jose_seco@autoproduzioni.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35875"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Maxime Devos , guile-user To: Matias Jose Seco Baccanelli Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 04 04:49:33 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o8C9U-00099o-IT for guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2022 04:49:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49446 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o8C9S-0006gZ-TR for guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2022 22:49:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36564) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o8C9G-0006fr-HH for guile-user@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2022 22:49:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ej1-x630.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::630]:41647) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o8C9E-0006TO-Hm for guile-user@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2022 22:49:18 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ej1-x630.google.com with SMTP id u12so14304943eja.8 for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2022 19:49:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sweatshoppe-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=EiySQWzTwoROuWtXE1M3qmd1gkuflq8njF4P9YNpFko=; b=4A4wjLy7OskjjKZ6uqeax2fcMxEiC6ZJBlc6zW5G+exDHHFqfSdbJvOBnRWp5bI6A4 eWprL49zCNqYBNSWKYQWLmQDni9Tb+5OAY1uGWtdebUC7lttKxdkUmEmZOgmD+K+BCa6 mvZGA53xst4zp4Ei2Xt2ojkBepOwx+ohuQcYL4EjC8EXeU+Kg0ci3pHcVz74tHlguy4y DKlLJpnF2jLZCeANGZUI0YuMJKGvhSMauWSsN+bVkJzcn64ff04Buo+x0TTwRopaM/j8 47F0zTiDXeeeFNmidDXeBcuLdKKd15FmhiviO0TN0aTaHSWMGsKq14Mqhw+r6z21LT/G l2jA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=EiySQWzTwoROuWtXE1M3qmd1gkuflq8njF4P9YNpFko=; b=h5g52HSMpC4wMUagxepl9z/lKJn84IESZBZpkYWLh/T7JgG0bOkoVGqRO73o95hzn5 +kxRl2lthGuJ4ZbzMbstHBt6ABer7ISAKDYYPJ+XgrS2CuYSTEtH3nEuy3rK0Lyhd9LC OqQy7XZjQXzL0RT2pGHYL+1R20ZI3oxCR6hYXtBxr+dlh8Vd9bKoNLpDTnRrs/M9smtI bTk7mYUdH7Mn9Obm2AwpXOoA1q7ShkhRsf5ZYrEWEyW5kHeanTpQwoYCqM0Fsq6+XP3b K5LxoxaxNh/KLWTfqGZM1CQ4pDdJGMdgAHiLeca14wg+7+Nq1CWYAqvDFghnoT5gU255 lAkw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora8qsejUbXL3dBomJ/1No/xDO99BiYIYDf45Yk+adqTPu5agghu1 Z8A1bkyyLu+AyMzj2NSQknd5BKue5xNTlmb6bOHKCg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1usgGEDBucWQfrv3zIur/3NmSEFgLSEBVfu/2Z8IhzOq+n8PdE9TIOjxu520cnh1K4Sl40kQ/LlfKAbsh1Lge0= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:168c:b0:726:c521:25aa with SMTP id hc12-20020a170907168c00b00726c52125aamr26009098ejc.46.1656902954428; Sun, 03 Jul 2022 19:49:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20220702114724.4dc935ca.matias_jose_seco@autoproduzioni.net> Received-SPF: none client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::630; envelope-from=blake@sweatshoppe.org; helo=mail-ej1-x630.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-user" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.user:18389 Archived-At: Here is a toy kernel implemented in Loko Scheme that I just came across: https://github.com/luksamuk/loko-kernel On Sat, Jul 2, 2022, 16:48 Matias Jose Seco Baccanelli < matias_jose_seco@autoproduzioni.net> wrote: > Hello fellow Guilers! > Thank you so much for the wide input! > So cool to see many thriving initiatives! > > Il giorno Thu, 23 Jun 2022 09:34:25 +0200 > Maxime Devos ha scritto: > > > Matias Jose Seco Baccanelli schreef op do 23-06-2022 om 08:11 [+0200]: > > > Feels like a nice recipe for User Empowerment ! > > > > How does this empower users? > > My rationale is about having the advantage of scheme programming > approach than c paradigm. I feel this brings it's magic pedagogic and > mind friendly source code. > > > Sure, if the user is a programmer they > > can modify their custom microkernel in Scheme, but then you have a > > very niche OS that practically no other software already supports, > > which is very inconvenient for the user and the user will have > > practical difficulties sharing the software with other people using > > other OSes > > Indeed, i'm too newbie about the topic, i thought integration between > kernel and software was straightforward, but i can imagine that many > additional tools/steps might be required for that. > > > ,so I think you're better of modifying another > > pre-existing microkernel to be usable from Guile (see answer by Dr. > > Arne Babenhauserheide). > > I think that's a great idea and initiative! > > > Greetings, > > Maxime. > > Thanks for the interesting reflection! > Again my knowledge on these fields are still under > development^^ so this are mainly curiosities and sensations! > Thanks! > >