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From: Stuart Hungerford <stuart.hungerford@gmail.com>
To: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
Cc: guile-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Idiomatic Guile for semigroup/monoid/group?
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 10:46:22 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG+kMrEs+R_FtkAWLuCZwpbkd-zcbnDK84Sww5KQ4_BM2sW1ig@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7af1fd7e8bf7b0c84cdda3a431412bac31b45f18.camel@telenet.be>

On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 9:46 PM Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be> wrote:

> > In Haskell/Idris/Purescript/Swift/Rust I'd be looking to
> > typeclasses/protocols or traits to model a semigroup, monoid or group.
> > In OOP languages I'd be looking to some kind of abstract base class to
> > model each structure.
> >
> > What would the idiomatic Guile forms be to work with these structures?
> > Would it involve GOOPS or records?
>
> I wouldn't recommend using GOOPS methods, because a carrier set can
> have many groups.
>
> E.g., on the rational numbers (<rational> in GOOPS), both the
> multiplication group and the addition group can be defined, but they
> aren't isomorphic. (I'm ignoring 0 here)
>
> My suggestion is to do as Haskell does, but make type class instances
> explicit.

Thanks for that advice -- much appreciated.

> Anyway, possibly things like this are already implemented in Theme-D
> (not sure though): looking at the properties of Theme-D listed at
> <https://www.tohoyn.fi/theme-d/>:

That's very interesting. I'd been wondering if there was an extension
for Guile that did what Typed Racket does for Racket or what Coalton
does for Common Lisp.

Just out of interest, are there other multimethod/ad-hoc polymorphism
approaches for Guile?

Thanks,

Stu



  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-02 23:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-01 23:45 Idiomatic Guile for semigroup/monoid/group? Stuart Hungerford
2022-01-02 10:46 ` Maxime Devos
2022-01-02 23:46   ` Stuart Hungerford [this message]
2022-01-03 10:14     ` Maxime Devos
2022-01-03 21:02       ` Stuart Hungerford
2022-01-03 10:02 ` zimoun

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