Re: GNU Guile community in google+

[zx spectrumgomas <spectrumgomas@gmail.com>]

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:59 PM, hellekin <hellekin@gnu.org> wrote:
> On 12/18/2012 10:08 AM, zx spectrumgomas wrote:
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>> Facebook, Google+, Twitter.
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>> I think Guilers are wrong not managing an account like that.
>>
>> With google+'s account is different.
>>
> *** No it's not. Anyone can create an account anywhere, and then grant
> it to some authority figure, or share admin privilege with other people
> in a community. The question is not who is administering the account,
> but what does it imply for users to use that service. In any and all
> these cases, you're deflecting public activity (free software can be
> understood as a common good) to a private space (a privately-owned
> company, that DO NOT respect user's privacy to any acceptable level.)
>
> You're talking about convenience, while you should be thinking about
> freedom. You should be asking yourself: if I am free to represent or
> promote a free software on private ground, does that benefit others'
> freedom, or does that impede their freedom? Is that allowing users to
> participate without constraint? Is that nurturing the community?
>
> Think carefully. Attracting a mass of users would probably benefit the
> community, but moving the conversation to private grounds, where a
> private for-profit company can claim copyright on your contributions,
> and will track user behavior, certainly won't.
>
> That has nothing to do with being a newbie, or reaching a large "social
> network" (remember: the social network is made of human relationships,
> not corporate goodies), or confusing community and mass-media.
>
> I would, personally, accept the use of such services for
> *announcements*, that link to free, non-tracking, community-operated
> sites, such as this mailing-list, the IRC channel, Andi Wingo's blog,
> etc. I know that rms would simply say something in the lines: these
> services are tracking their users, and they're not free software, so
> don't use them.
>

"With google+'s account is different" meant only to pretentiousness
newbie level. Obviously thinking about freedom problem is the same if
account is community or isn't. I will see Diaspora tonight or if
someone want see it before it's perfect.