From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ivan Raikov Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.scheme.reports.wg2,gmane.lisp.scheme.reports.wg1,gmane.lisp.scheme.chicken,gmane.lisp.scheme.chibi,gmane.lisp.scheme.gambit,gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: Tangerine Edition penultimate report: how I voted, how you're voting Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:20:28 -0800 Message-ID: References: <00545ca8-81d6-d4c5-5acc-142c87457692@bothner.com> Reply-To: scheme-reports-wg2@googlegroups.com NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1547842714 14816 195.159.176.226 (18 Jan 2019 20:18:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 20:18:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: John Cowan , scheme-reports-wg1@googlegroups.com, scheme-reports-wg2@googlegroups.com, chicken chicken , chibi-scheme@googlegroups.com, gambit-list@iro.umontreal.ca, guile-user , srfi-160@srfi.schemers.org To: Per Bothner Original-X-From: scheme-reports-wg2+bncBCO5JHNMTUOBBGPKRDRAKGQEAW6BUJQ@googlegroups.com Fri Jan 18 21:18:29 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: glsrw-scheme-reports-wg2@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail-ed1-f64.google.com ([209.85.208.64]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gkaaz-0003kW-Jb for glsrw-scheme-reports-wg2@m.gmane.org; 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[2a00:1450:4864:20::12f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a3si1032060eda.0.2019.01.18.12.20.40 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:20:40 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ivan.g.raikov@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::12f as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::12f; Original-Received: by mail-lf1-x12f.google.com with SMTP id a16so11400315lfg.3; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:20:40 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a19:5154:: with SMTP id f81mr14094978lfb.96.1547842839753; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:20:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <00545ca8-81d6-d4c5-5acc-142c87457692@bothner.com> X-Original-Sender: ivan.g.raikov@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=jCPlIy4t; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ivan.g.raikov@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::12f as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ivan.g.raikov@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list scheme-reports-wg2@googlegroups.com; contact scheme-reports-wg2+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: scheme-reports-wg2@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 753484856653 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.scheme.reports.wg2:1041 gmane.lisp.scheme.reports.wg1:2923 gmane.lisp.scheme.chicken:21630 gmane.lisp.scheme.chibi:1548 gmane.lisp.scheme.gambit:9016 gmane.lisp.guile.user:15235 Archived-At: I thought the Great Compromise of R7RS was to have specifications for both a small and a large language, so that everyone is happy (or at least equally mad :-)) . Isn't the difference with R6RS that R7RS-large draws extensively on SRFIs which are indeed attempts to codify existing practices? On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 5:15 PM Per Bothner wrote: > > On 1/16/19 6:27 AM, John Cowan wrote: > > So what is happening is that people are voting for more rather than less, as with the Red Edition. This encourages me that I'm going in a sensible direction with the large language. > > For the record, I'm extremely leery of the more-is-better approach. > We seem to be adding a large number of very large APIs, which seems > to be contrary to the Scheme ideal of small well-chosen primitives > that work synergistic well together. People were unhappy with R6RS > because of its size and that so much of it was invention rather than > codifying existing practice. R7RS-large is the same - but much more so. > -- > --Per Bothner > per@bothner.com http://per.bothner.com/ > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "scheme-reports-wg2" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to scheme-reports-wg2+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.