using a module : rename a single definition

using a module : rename a single definition

[Damien Mattei]

hello,

is it possible to import a module having just one variable renamed (not
all) , as in Racket:

(require (rename-in srfi/42
             (: s42:))) ; Eager Comprehensions

it seems in Guile either all is imported and prefixed or only a selection
of bindings can be imported:

https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/Using-Guile-Modules.html

(use-modules ((ice-9 popen)
              #:select ((open-pipe . pipe-open) close-pipe)
              #:prefix unixy:))

regards,

Re: using a module : rename a single definition

[Tomas Volf]

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On 2024-03-03 09:46:41 +0100, Damien Mattei wrote:
> hello,
>
> is it possible to import a module having just one variable renamed (not
> all) , as in Racket:
>
> (require (rename-in srfi/42
>              (: s42:))) ; Eager Comprehensions
>
> it seems in Guile either all is imported and prefixed or only a selection
> of bindings can be imported:
>
> https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/Using-Guile-Modules.html
>
> (use-modules ((ice-9 popen)
>               #:select ((open-pipe . pipe-open) close-pipe)
>               #:prefix unixy:))
>
> regards,

There does not seem to be a way to *exclude* a single symbol from the import,
but, if you do not mind having *also* the original symbol (or if you will just
override it later with something else anyway), it seems you can do something
like this:

    (use-modules (ice-9 popen)
                 ((ice-9 popen) #:select ((open-pipe . foo-bar))))

After that you have both `open-pipe' and `foo-bar' available, pointing to the
same procedure.  At this point you could just re-define `open-pipe' to something
else and use the `foo-bar'.

Maybe there is a better way, but I did not find it in the manual.

Have a nice day,
Tomas Volf

--
There are only two hard things in Computer Science:
cache invalidation, naming things and off-by-one errors.

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Re: using a module : rename a single definition

[Damien Mattei]

yes , your solution works, thanks :

(use-modules (Scheme+)
    (matrix+)
    (srfi srfi-42) ; import all definitions
    ((srfi srfi-42)
            #:select ((: . s42-:))) ; rename only one
    ;;((srfi srfi-42) ; Eager Comprehensions
    ;; #:prefix s42-)
    (oop goops)
    (srfi srfi-43)) ; vectors

used in code:

{M <- (vector-ec (s42-: n {lnc - 1}) ; vectors by eager comprehension (SRFI
42)
                            create-matrix-by-function(uniform-dummy nc[n +
1] {nc[n] + 1}))} ;; Matrix-vect

after parsing (convert curly infix scheme+ to classic scheme):

(<- M
      (vector-ec
        (s42-: n (- lnc 1))
        (create-matrix-by-function
          uniform-dummy
          ($bracket-apply$next nc (list (+ n 1)))
          (+ ($bracket-apply$next nc (list n)) 1))))

i tested also the solution of tomas and it works too:

(use-modules (Scheme+)
    (matrix+)
    ;(srfi srfi-42) ; import all definitions
             ((srfi srfi-42)
#:renamer (lambda (sym)
                              (if (eq? sym ':)
                                  's42-:
                                  sym)))
;#:select ((: . s42-:))) ; rename only one
    ;;((srfi srfi-42) ; Eager Comprehensions
;; #:prefix s42-)
    (oop goops)
    (srfi srfi-43)) ; vectors

Merçi

Damien

On Sun, Mar 3, 2024 at 12:50 PM Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz> wrote:

> On 2024-03-03 09:46:41 +0100, Damien Mattei wrote:
> > hello,
> >
> > is it possible to import a module having just one variable renamed (not
> > all) , as in Racket:
> >
> > (require (rename-in srfi/42
> >              (: s42:))) ; Eager Comprehensions
> >
> > it seems in Guile either all is imported and prefixed or only a selection
> > of bindings can be imported:
> >
> >
> https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/Using-Guile-Modules.html
> >
> > (use-modules ((ice-9 popen)
> >               #:select ((open-pipe . pipe-open) close-pipe)
> >               #:prefix unixy:))
> >
> > regards,
>
> There does not seem to be a way to *exclude* a single symbol from the
> import,
> but, if you do not mind having *also* the original symbol (or if you will
> just
> override it later with something else anyway), it seems you can do
> something
> like this:
>
>     (use-modules (ice-9 popen)
>                  ((ice-9 popen) #:select ((open-pipe . foo-bar))))
>
> After that you have both `open-pipe' and `foo-bar' available, pointing to
> the
> same procedure.  At this point you could just re-define `open-pipe' to
> something
> else and use the `foo-bar'.
>
> Maybe there is a better way, but I did not find it in the manual.
>
> Have a nice day,
> Tomas Volf
>
> --
> There are only two hard things in Computer Science:
> cache invalidation, naming things and off-by-one errors.
>

Re: using a module : rename a single definition

[tomas]

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On Sun, Mar 03, 2024 at 09:46:41AM +0100, Damien Mattei wrote:
> hello,
> 
> is it possible to import a module having just one variable renamed (not
> all) , as in Racket:
> 
> (require (rename-in srfi/42
>              (: s42:))) ; Eager Comprehensions
> 
> it seems in Guile either all is imported and prefixed or only a selection
> of bindings can be imported:

I was under the impression that #:renamer should give us enough rope
to shoot anyone in the foot ;-)

A quick and unscientific test -- this one should rename xcons to snoc
and leave all the rest of srfi-1 alone:

  tomas@trotzki:~$ guile
  GNU Guile 3.0.9.120-79e836-dirty
  Copyright (C) 1995-2023 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
  scheme@(guile-user)> (use-modules ( (srfi srfi-1)
                                      #:renamer (lambda (sym)
                                                  (if (eq? sym 'xcons)
                                                        'snoc
                                                        sym))))
  
  scheme@(guile-user)> (snoc 'a 'b)
  $1 = (b . a)

Cheers
-- 
t

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RE: using a module : rename a single definition

[Maxime Devos]

Yes, with ‘library’ or ‘define-library’ forms.
 
(see https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/R6RS-Libraries.html)

(library (insert name here)
  (export [insert exports here])
  (import
    (guile) ; standard imports
    (rename (ice-9 popen) (open-pipe pipe-open)))
  [insert definitions here])

Re: using a module : rename a single definition

[Damien Mattei]

yes it should works. I trying to port all my scheme code in R6RS library
style for compatibility,it's a bit complex depending the integration of
R6RS in a particular scheme but i think there should be a compatibility
advantage doing that.

Damien

On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 12:09 AM Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
wrote:

> Yes, with ‘library’ or ‘define-library’ forms.
>
> (see
> https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/R6RS-Libraries.html)
>
>
>
> (library (insert name here)
>
>   (export [insert exports here])
>
>   (import
>
>     (guile) ; standard imports
>
>     (rename (ice-9 popen) (open-pipe pipe-open)))
>
>   [insert definitions here])
>
>
>

Re: using a module : rename a single definition

[Hans-Werner Roitzsch]

Hello Damien,

Be aware though, that porting some exports may not work without renaming them:

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-user/2023-06/msg00020.html

Regards,
Zelphir

On 3/27/24 08:42, Damien Mattei wrote:
> yes it should works. I trying to port all my scheme code in R6RS library
> style for compatibility,it's a bit complex depending the integration of
> R6RS in a particular scheme but i think there should be a compatibility
> advantage doing that.
>
> Damien
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 12:09 AM Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, with ‘library’ or ‘define-library’ forms.
>>
>> (see
>> https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/R6RS-Libraries.html)
>>
>>
>>
>> (library (insert name here)
>>
>>    (export [insert exports here])
>>
>>    (import
>>
>>      (guile) ; standard imports
>>
>>      (rename (ice-9 popen) (open-pipe pipe-open)))
>>
>>    [insert definitions here])
>>
>>
>>

Re: using a module : rename a single definition

[Damien Mattei]

thank you for the advice,for now i'm trying with Racket r6rs support and it
is not easy,
the solution in guile seems to be to rename or to use the define-module
style instead of the r6rs library, if only a name in the new library is the
same as an existing name in guile library it is not usable as it is
re-exported as the guile original binding.
If really the problem is so important i'm not sure to use r6rs with guile
now.
regards,
damien

On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 11:47 AM Hans-Werner Roitzsch <hwroitzsch@posteo.net>
wrote:

> Hello Damien,
>
> Be aware though, that porting some exports may not work without renaming
> them:
>
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-user/2023-06/msg00020.html
>
> Regards,
> Zelphir
>
> On 3/27/24 08:42, Damien Mattei wrote:
> > yes it should works. I trying to port all my scheme code in R6RS library
> > style for compatibility,it's a bit complex depending the integration of
> > R6RS in a particular scheme but i think there should be a compatibility
> > advantage doing that.
> >
> > Damien
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 12:09 AM Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, with ‘library’ or ‘define-library’ forms.
> >>
> >> (see
> >> https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/R6RS-Libraries.html
> )
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> (library (insert name here)
> >>
> >>    (export [insert exports here])
> >>
> >>    (import
> >>
> >>      (guile) ; standard imports
> >>
> >>      (rename (ice-9 popen) (open-pipe pipe-open)))
> >>
> >>    [insert definitions here])
> >>
> >>
> >>
>