From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Damien Mattei Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: Guile Steel: a proposal for a systems lisp Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 11:28:14 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87v8s6xpnq.fsf@dustycloud.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31723"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Guile User To: Christine Lemmer-Webber Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 07 11:29:20 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oKcb1-00085o-8Q for guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2022 11:29:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41820 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oKcaz-0002Gc-L7 for guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2022 05:29:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46636) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oKcaE-0002GE-Fb for guile-user@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2022 05:28:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lj1-x22a.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::22a]:39654) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oKcaC-0003k6-Pj for guile-user@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2022 05:28:30 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lj1-x22a.google.com with SMTP id s9so7150931ljs.6 for ; Sun, 07 Aug 2022 02:28:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc; bh=p6NtN8xmX3X5qm9zBc5iyO4CcJuRak9PSXTpskPEkYI=; b=krWMFYBEhbuhpdE5/CPfzz0958kHlkSU+5Kdg2uw8Y6OlRT/JV61RFHBEbDmuMHMjl +nat0Zo99wysn/4myBrA2oubyNdYsHsCG73VjXsf3aaoRKLxuDR1Lg3oeVridBsdPv3y VXKbPQ5BGVUHEvNQjcRWrpUGG5XKYNgHUB3VODIuZJNLVryjokOWZeyqreOck7AWCtO1 FHcC8b0Ls04fHT/wrgjJ/ucv99tDn+wcv8NFC47iU7xiEYyV4DwIbWoxHQL1ZNQFUWwT KpDwSsdDEUqA2Y68jlrj3JyJDB97QvoAj+dJ4gtxCM5JtxsV54ENsViI6v/6kOHsMB3H /9QQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc; bh=p6NtN8xmX3X5qm9zBc5iyO4CcJuRak9PSXTpskPEkYI=; b=Y6JDnr/Ufz7zEaLSUa46JvxSLGOt6XmF0zY7o2RKKLRrJwLzZkSU4/U/8/7SvSRY5P QELOHm98RbR81Jk8d4525ZmT/JFymGJupu8nTymJmMYAo0uIawUGyY7AtwtEoZ7yKYSk 5TU0xi5BlSA6bQQm42zc1c7bkExEjbO/oetgTLESElcMVEcPX42ShO+EOX3QcTPuPqgO RRNoEqu/QcH6jUfHlSY8TwJmBC0ZA5C4oZsbKPyDITFdxoL/npztuvTxXZlyRKMhMSnA 1h84ZKXULsFMzBYJCY+M81g2UHhvWzYpO9GjS17Sgvid9xhGCiyTAqwhpSZhd1WiBeJa 7yDg== X-Gm-Message-State: ACgBeo3nhMsbC6aVLuppl4SAKYX5bo8OkVaE0dXBlBSKlKUOoqf+YqYg rjJLHnepTFf6gyZuKwhtQWkGdFBEovJ3EIGsaw0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA6agR7CiRsoFJQ7ikpPu25wb1zHs+IRybOGiB3le03LWE0xDzPFCNqQbg8VxshXtAwnPnr9oJwG73wYX1e57fMPjLc= X-Received: by 2002:a05:651c:b25:b0:25e:bd01:9f29 with SMTP id b37-20020a05651c0b2500b0025ebd019f29mr2579205ljr.409.1659864506535; Sun, 07 Aug 2022 02:28:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87v8s6xpnq.fsf@dustycloud.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::22a; envelope-from=damien.mattei@gmail.com; helo=mail-lj1-x22a.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-user" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.user:18497 Archived-At: perhaps Bigloo a Scheme that targets C and has many other features can help: https://www-sop.inria.fr/mimosa/fp/Bigloo/ Damien On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 5:38 PM Christine Lemmer-Webber < cwebber@dustycloud.org> wrote: > A little blogpost this morning, not actual software, but software > desiderata: > https://dustycloud.org/blog/guile-steel-proposal/ > > I'd love to see something like the above happen. I'd love to help make > it happen. So this is more of a call to arms than anything else. > > Can we have a "systems lisp"? Can we do better than Rust? Let's put > some interesting things on that compiler tower of ours! > >