On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 8:15 PM Per Bothner wrote: For the record, I'm extremely leery of the more-is-better approach. > We seem to be adding a large number of very large APIs, which seems > to be contrary to the Scheme ideal of small well-chosen primitives > that work synergistic well together. I don't believe that that idea ever applied to the Scheme library, otherwise the list primitives would have been pair?, car, cdr, cons, null?, set-car!, and set-cdr!, and possibly not even the last two. Allow me to quote the first paragraph of Olin Shivers's rationale for SRFI 1, itself a "very large API" of 149 procedures, especially when compared to the 7 minimal procedures above and the 50 R6RS procedures, yet SRFI 1 is very popular and 24 of the 32 Schemes for which I have SRFI data implement it. The set of basic list and pair operations provided by R4RS/R5RS Scheme is > far from satisfactory. Because this set is so small and basic, most > implementations provide additional utilities, such as a list-filtering > function, or a "left fold" operator, and so forth. But, of course, this > introduces incompatibilities -- different Scheme implementations provide > different sets of procedures. The SRFI 43 rationale (by Taylor Campbell) begins similarly: R5RS provides very few list-processing procedures, for which reason SRFI 1 > (list-lib) exists. However, R5RS provides even fewer vector operations — > while it provides mapping, appending, et cetera operations for lists, it > specifies only nine vector manipulation operations —: [list omitted] . > Many Scheme implementations provide several vector operations beyond the > miniscule set that R5RS defines (the typical vector-append, vector-map, et > cetera), but often these procedures have different names, take arguments in > different orders, don't take the same number of arguments, or have some > other flaw that makes them unportable. For this reason, this SRFI is > proposed. Finally, here's Olin again in SRFI 33, bitwise operations: If you believe in "small is beautiful," then what is your motivation for including anything beyond BITWISE-NAND? Quant. suff. -- John Cowan http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan cowan-PrmTNUR8zL8@public.gmane.org You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and all other acyclic graphs; you have a right to be here. --DeXiderata by Sean McGrath -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "chibi-scheme" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to chibi-scheme+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to chibi-scheme-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/chibi-scheme. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.