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From: John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org>
To: hiphish@posteo.de
Cc: guile-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A value for "nothing"
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 20:26:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAD2gp_S=o1oJ8Ncnwz5kVmAafLTGaMYyTAqRx-1riQMuD5Aq9w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2244446.TfDt2vcRxf@aleksandar-ixtreme-m5740>

You're right about null? being a problem.  `Nothing` suggests an option
type.  What about 'nada' or 'nix'?

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 6:45 PM HiPhish <hiphish@posteo.de> wrote:

> 1) Huh, I didn't think this would work because the record type is already
> nil,
> but apparently it does. Good to know
>
> 2) `null` is bad because the predicate would be `null?`, which collides
> even
> worse with Scheme. Any other suggestions? `nothing`? `nul` with one ell? I
> think it would be too easy for people to miss that one letter and be
> confused
> why things don't work as they should. The MessagePack spec calls the type
> `nil`:
> https://github.com/msgpack/msgpack/blob/master/spec.md#nil-format
>
>
> John Cowan wrote:
> > 1) Some Schemes don't support rename on export.  Just give the procedure
> > the name you want it to have.
> >
> > 2) Please don't use nil as a name.  Many Schemers pronounce (), the
> > external representation of the empty list, as "nil".  Use null or
> something
> > else.
>
>
>


  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-15  0:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-13 21:49 A value for "nothing" HiPhish
     [not found] ` <CAD2gp_Sg-aDXZKfOcL-i2py7ne4c0Cp+2HvKS4DYi1Antm_B1A@mail.gmail.com>
2018-09-14 22:45   ` HiPhish
2018-09-15  0:26     ` John Cowan [this message]
2018-09-15 14:50       ` HiPhish
2018-09-15 18:28         ` Keith Wright
2018-09-15 21:50           ` Edwin Watkeys
2018-09-15 22:16             ` HiPhish
2018-09-15 22:23               ` Edwin Watkeys
2018-09-15 22:13           ` HiPhish
2018-09-15 22:45       ` David Pirotte
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-08-26 20:25 HiPhish
2018-08-26 10:13 HiPhish
2018-08-26 17:21 ` Thomas Morley
2018-08-26 17:27 ` Joshua Branson
2018-08-26 17:49 ` John Cowan
2018-08-27  4:52   ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-27 13:00     ` John Cowan
2018-08-27 21:29       ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-27 21:32       ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-26 20:07 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-26 22:08   ` Matt Wette
2018-08-27  8:04   ` tomas
2018-08-27 20:12     ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-27 20:46       ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-28  0:50         ` Matt Wette
2018-08-28  6:58           ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-28 15:19             ` John Cowan
2018-08-28 15:38               ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-28 15:59                 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-28 16:12                 ` John Cowan
2018-08-28 17:15                   ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-28 19:07                   ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-27 20:54       ` Hans Åberg
2018-08-27  0:17 ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2018-08-27  8:02   ` tomas
2018-08-27  8:29     ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2018-08-27  8:29   ` HiPhish
     [not found] ` <8840615.kRvQfVdCvZ@aleksandar-ixtreme-m5740>
     [not found]   ` <CAD2gp_QLqd=_RbF=HTEbCLp1onmUq-c74g0FXTvMgdz8JB4-8A@mail.gmail.com>
2018-08-27  8:24     ` HiPhish
     [not found] ` <3467110.H24gZIzStD@aleksandar-ixtreme-m5740>
     [not found]   ` <87ftz0vidc.fsf@netris.org>
2018-08-27  8:40     ` HiPhish
2018-08-27 12:37       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-27 19:49         ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-28  7:52           ` Ludovic Courtès

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