From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Cowan Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: "Missing" libraries/concepts found in other languages/ecosystems? 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X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-user" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.user:16669 Archived-At: On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 7:10 PM Chris Vine wrote: So when you said "continuable and non-continuable in Scheme are exactly > like CL [signal] and error (and its variants)" are you then saying that > SIGNAL == continuable (ie raise-continuable in R6RS) and ERROR == > non-continuable (ie raise in R6RS)? That is what I meant. > In what way do you say that continuable exceptions are not in some sense > analogous to common lisp restarts (noting the "in some sense"? > Well, okay, but in *what* sense? You made the claim in the first place; I think the burden of persuasion lies with you. John Cowan http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org Mos Eisley spaceport. You will never see a more wretched hive of scum and villainy --unless you watch the Jerry Springer Show. --georgettesworld.com