From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Linas Vepstas Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: Give up Guile Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 14:38:44 -0500 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: linasvepstas@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1283629156 23885 80.91.229.12 (4 Sep 2010 19:39:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 19:39:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-user To: Shenli Zhu Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 04 21:39:13 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Orya0-0006rT-Ar for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 21:39:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44930 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OryZz-0002w3-Qv for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:39:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=34312 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OryZu-0002vs-AA for guile-user@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:39:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OryZt-0007J2-64 for guile-user@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:39:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.212.41]:42845) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OryZt-0007Ir-3z for guile-user@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:39:05 -0400 Original-Received: by vws16 with SMTP id 16so3075409vws.0 for ; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 12:39:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-type; bh=ouC20e1kYlM3ogIfwhPWqhLBiWB/X2Mk50S09gHXU7Y=; b=uEq1d7UG5ld5br9Wk+9fwpDjnh98JaKoRmpgnDDUNSwEbj8EDB154FUL69MRlwAdC5 zJastXeH0Ddx32ZpkHpF3KYCNQ46kBs/8NTBlLphM50vfPb7dpHyEcPaoqrPg1ycC0AH lqR4wNnWBmU4cfxpJwwuaMkReOvCUJ01k5pLc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; b=FrlcY2ogHt0bMPcvDpHExSseUOkrT5dSgQOKkE2aN22rgJLSgHK44eJFS/XpcwyxFR 6zQYc2MDuuptWvcJDF34vPhiIWn2I+EORZegl+rOBjhoyqb4+qPF9Z50Lqb9kQNcPfHD vRL/1fxe8PPwNDhd8jfIf8B2SNkIm+sQiTF4s= Original-Received: by 10.220.122.103 with SMTP id k39mr305208vcr.65.1283629144453; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 12:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.220.49.95 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Sep 2010 12:38:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.user:8152 Archived-At: On 2 September 2010 10:44, Shenli Zhu wrote: > > Everyone knows a good debugger is very important, PLT-scheme have one-click > "Debug", Can someone describe what it is that the PLT/MIT scheme debuggers do? Are any of these portable to guile? If not, why not .. license incompatibility? Or are they just too wedded to internal implementation? Some people seem to really like debuggers, so it would be reasonable for guile to have something at least passable. (Personally, I rarely use debuggers, they never seem worth the effort, and don't provide me with much insight, or make anything easier. Maybe I think different than other people, or maybe I've never used a good debugger before. But clearly, they can be important...) > and gdb has very simple commands, ? What does gdb have to do with it? Last I looked, gdb and scheme were utterly incompatible; am I missing something? > instrumenting Emacs function you > can trace it easily. ?What does emacs have to do with it? --linas