From: Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: guile-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: guile can't find a chinese named file
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 21:01:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zii8bcdw.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878tpsqtzl.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (David Kastrup's message of "Mon, 30 Jan 2017 19:32:14 +0100")
David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>:
> Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> writes:
>> Guile's mistake was to move to Unicode strings in the operating system
>> interface.
>
> Emacs uses an UTF-8 based encoding internally [...]
C uses 8-bit characters. That is a model worth emulating.
UTF-8 beautifully bridges the interpretation gap between 8-bit character
strings and text. However, the interpretation step should be done in the
application and not in the programming language. Support libraries for
Unicode are naturally welcome.
Plain Unicode text is actually quite a rare programming need. It is
woefully inadequate for the human interface, which generally requires
numerous other typesetting effects. But is also causing unnecessary
grief in the computer-computer interface, where the classic textual
naming and textual protocols are actually cutely chosen octet-aligned
binary formats.
Marko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-01-30 19:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-27 11:58 guile can't find a chinese named file Thomas Morley
2016-11-27 12:16 ` Chaos Eternal
2016-11-28 8:54 ` Thomas Morley
2017-01-26 21:59 ` Linas Vepstas
2017-01-30 14:20 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-01-30 15:48 ` David Kastrup
2017-01-30 16:41 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-01-30 17:04 ` David Kastrup
2017-01-30 15:54 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-01-30 16:19 ` David Kastrup
2017-01-30 16:33 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-01-30 16:42 ` David Kastrup
2017-01-30 17:58 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-01-30 18:32 ` David Kastrup
2017-01-30 18:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-30 19:00 ` David Kastrup
2017-01-30 19:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-30 19:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-30 20:42 ` Mike Gran
2017-01-31 3:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-31 6:16 ` Mike Gran
2017-01-31 8:51 ` David Kastrup
2017-01-30 19:01 ` Marko Rauhamaa [this message]
2017-01-30 19:27 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-14 20:10 ` Linas Vepstas
2017-02-14 20:54 ` Mike Gran
2017-02-14 21:07 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-14 21:52 ` Mike Gran
2017-02-14 22:12 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-14 22:19 ` Chris Vine
2017-02-15 7:15 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-15 9:18 ` tomas
2017-02-15 9:54 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-15 10:10 ` tomas
2017-02-15 17:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-15 20:07 ` tomas
2017-02-15 20:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-15 10:50 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-15 11:18 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-15 10:15 ` Chris Vine
2017-02-15 11:48 ` tomas
2017-02-15 12:13 ` Chris Vine
2017-02-15 12:41 ` tomas
2017-02-15 13:11 ` Chris Vine
2017-02-15 13:31 ` tomas
2017-02-15 17:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-26 20:58 ` Andy Wingo
2017-02-27 16:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-26 20:52 ` Andy Wingo
2017-02-15 16:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-15 17:53 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-15 20:20 ` tomas
2017-02-15 20:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-15 21:04 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-16 5:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-16 6:15 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-16 6:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-16 6:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-16 7:16 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-16 8:26 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-16 10:21 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-16 10:43 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-16 11:04 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-16 11:11 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-16 11:32 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-16 11:49 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-16 12:14 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-16 16:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-16 16:38 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-16 17:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-16 18:38 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-16 18:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-16 19:35 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-16 20:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-16 20:52 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-16 21:13 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-17 6:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-17 8:46 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-17 9:04 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-17 9:57 ` tomas
2017-02-17 9:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-17 6:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-16 16:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-16 16:35 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-16 17:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-16 18:30 ` Mike Gran
2017-02-16 18:48 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-16 7:02 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-16 15:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-15 21:15 ` tomas
2017-02-16 5:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-14 23:58 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-15 10:12 ` tomas
2017-02-15 12:04 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-26 21:20 ` Andy Wingo
2017-02-27 9:10 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-27 11:02 ` Andy Wingo
2017-02-27 12:09 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-27 12:33 ` Andy Wingo
2017-02-27 16:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-27 19:29 ` Andy Wingo
2017-02-27 20:24 ` Jan Wedekind
2017-02-27 20:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-14 22:26 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-26 21:23 ` Andy Wingo
2017-01-30 19:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-30 20:46 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-01-31 12:20 ` tomas
2017-02-14 19:58 ` Linas Vepstas
2017-02-26 21:33 ` Andy Wingo
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