./guile-config : permission denied

./guile-config : permission denied

[Gopi kumaran]

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when i run ./configure in guile-1.8.1 it stops by saying
   
  checking for guile...guile-config:permission denied
  configure:cannot find guile-config;is Guile installed?
   
  wht to do?I went to /usr/local/bin(i assume that it will check in this folder).i tried to run ./guile-config in  /usr/local/bin/guile-config folder it says 
  ./guile-config:permission denied
  I changed to su and then tried but still same problem
   
  Any help
  regards
  gopi
   
   




 	
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Re: ./guile-config : permission denied

[Jon Wilson]

Hi Gopi,
Are you sure that the execute permissions are set for the guile-config 
executable?  Check this with ls -l /path/to/guile-config .  It should 
look something like

$ ls -l /usr/local/bin/guile-config
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9110 2006-11-30 10:00 /usr/local/bin/guile-config

The gibberish at the beginning of the line is the permissions.  r is 
read, w is write, x is execute.  The first rwx is for the owner of the 
file (root in this case), the second r-x is for any user in the group 
(root) that owns the file, and the third r-x is for all other users.  
That initial - is for a few special things, like marking directories.

If you lack the x on the third set of permissions, then most users will 
not be able to execute guile-config, and in fact it will fail with just 
the error message you received.  If you lack the x on all three sets of 
permissions, then nobody (yes not even root) will be able to execute 
guile-config.

You can change the permissions with chmod (1).  Try

$ chmod a+x /path/to/guile-config

This will set the execute bit for owner, group, and others, that is, for 
all three permissions categories.  It will leave the read and write bits 
unchanged.

Regards,
Jon

Gopi kumaran wrote:
> when i run ./configure in guile-1.8.1 it stops by saying
>  
> checking for guile...guile-config:permission denied
> configure:cannot find guile-config;is Guile installed?
>  
> wht to do?I went to /usr/local/bin(i assume that it will check in this 
> folder).i tried to run ./guile-config in  /usr/local/bin/guile-config 
> folder it says
> ./guile-config:permission denied
> I changed to su and then tried but still same problem
>  
> Any help
> regards
> gopi
>  
>  
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Re: ./guile-config : permission denied

[Kevin Ryde]

Jon Wilson <j85wilson@fastmail.fm> writes:
>
> $ chmod a+x /path/to/guile-config

Which is supposed to be done by guile-config/Makefile.am at install
time of course.  If that didn't happen maybe there's some bug ...


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Re: ./guile-config : permission denied

[Jon Wilson]

Hi Kevin,

Kevin Ryde wrote:
> Jon Wilson <j85wilson@fastmail.fm> writes:
>   
>> $ chmod a+x /path/to/guile-config
>>     
>
> Which is supposed to be done by guile-config/Makefile.am at install
> time of course.  If that didn't happen maybe there's some bug ...
>
>   
Naturally.  We'd need some more information from Gopi before knowing 
exactly what went on, though.  I was just attempting a quick fix to see 
if that was the problem (which it looks like from the error message).  
Do we know anyone else who runs guile 1.8 on a BSD?  Gopi's alloca problem

 eval.c:44:1: "alloca" redefined
In file included from ../libguile/scmconfig.h:29,
                     from ../libguile/__scm.h:76,
                     from eval.c:36:
/usr/include/stdlib.h:230:1: this is the location of the previous 
definition
Error code 1

also tastes like a bug, and one which could be related to the fact that 
he's on a BSD.  My (linux glibc6) stdlib.h has

#if defined __USE_GNU || defined __USE_BSD || defined __USE_MISC
# include <alloca.h>
#endif /* Use GNU, BSD, or misc.  */

at line 611.  If alloca.h gets included by stdlib (or if alloca is 
defined by BSD's stdlib), then it would make some sense for eval.c to 
have compilation errors, as it includes stdlib.h _and_ defines alloca 
(in some situations).  Perhaps the definitions of alloca in eval.c 
should be wrapped in an "#ifndef alloca"?  I suggested another quick fix 
(add #undef alloca immediately before line 44 to eval.c), don't know if 
that works for him or not.
Regards,
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Re: ./guile-config : permission denied

[Kevin Ryde]

Jon Wilson <j85wilson@fastmail.fm> writes:
>
> Perhaps the definitions of alloca in eval.c should be wrapped in an
> "#ifndef alloca"?

Quite possibly.  The blob used is from autoconf, so we can pass the
buck if it doesn't work :-).


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Re: ./guile-config : permission denied

[Jon Wilson]

Hi Gopi,
Could you make sure that /usr/local/bin is in your PATH?  Try

echo $PATH

You should get a colon-separated list of directories.  If /usr/local/bin 
is not there, then we have a problem.  I shouldn't think this is root 
problem, however, as it doesn't say it cannot find guile-config, but 
that permission is denied.

Maybe the permissions on /usr/local/bin or /usr/local are wrong.  Could 
you check the permissions on those directories as well?  (use ls -ld so 
you get the directory instead of its contents)

Try running

/usr/local/bin/guile-config

directly yourself.  See if you can do that without running the script.

Beyond that, I'm stumped.  Anyone else got any ideas?

Regards,
Jon

Gopi kumaran wrote:
> Hi Jon
>  
> Let me tell you that guile-config is in /usr/local/bin folder.Actually 
> it is found in guile-1.8.1 folder.I copied it to /usr/local/bin folder 
> as i thought it will check in that folder only (for sdl-config it 
> checked in /usr/local/bin only).Then wehn i run ./configure same problem
> guile-config permission denied.i checked the permisions ls - l 
> /usr/local/bin/guile-config it says
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9104 dec 2 15:14 guile-config
>  
> what to do now?is it because that i copied the folder to that bin folder?
> help me
>  
> regards
> gopi
>
>
> */Jon Wilson <j85wilson@fastmail.fm>/* wrote:
>
>     Hi Gopi,
>     Are you sure that the execute permissions are set for the
>     guile-config
>     executable? Check this with ls -l /path/to/guile-config . It should
>     look something like
>
>     $ ls -l /usr/local/bin/guile-config
>     -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9110 2006-11-30 10:00
>     /usr/local/bin/guile-config
>
>     The gibberish at the beginning of the line is the permissions. r is
>     read, w is write, x is execute. The first rwx is for the owner of the
>     file (root in this case), the second r-x is for any user in the group
>     (root) that owns the file, and the third r-x is for all other users.
>     That initial - is for a few special things, like marking directories.
>
>     If you lack the x on the third set of permissions, then most users
>     will
>     not be able to execute guile-config, and in fact it will fail with
>     just
>     the error message you received. If you lack the x on all three
>     sets of
>     permissions, then nobody (yes not even root) will be able to execute
>     guile-config.
>
>     You can change the permissions with chmod (1). Try
>
>     $ chmod a+x /path/to/guile-config
>
>     This will set the execute bit for owner, group, and others, that
>     is, for
>     all three permissions categories. It will leave the read and write
>     bits
>     unchanged.
>
>     Regards,
>     Jon
>
>     Gopi kumaran wrote:
>     > when i run ./configure in guile-1.8.1 it stops by saying
>     >
>     > checking for guile...guile-config:permission denied
>     > configure:cannot find guile-config;is Guile installed?
>     >
>     > wht to do?I went to /usr/local/bin(i assume that it will check
>     in this
>     > folder).i tried to run ./guile-config in
>     /usr/local/bin/guile-config
>     > folder it says
>     > ./guile-config:permission denied
>     > I changed to su and then tried but still same problem
>     >
>     > Any help
>     > regards
>     > gopi
>     >
>     >
>     >
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Re: ./guile-config : permission denied

[Gopi kumaran]

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hi 
  my path says
   
  /sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/bin /usr/X11R6/bin /root/bin
  
ls -ld /usr/local/bin/
  drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 1536 dec 2 15:14 /usr/local/bin/
   
  ls -ld /usr/local/
  drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 1536 dec 2 15:14 /usr/local/
   
  /usr/local/bin/guile-config: permission denied
   
  any help
   
  gopi
   
  
Jon Wilson <j85wilson@fastmail.fm> wrote:
  Hi Gopi,
Could you make sure that /usr/local/bin is in your PATH? Try

echo $PATH

You should get a colon-separated list of directories. If /usr/local/bin 
is not there, then we have a problem. I shouldn't think this is root 
problem, however, as it doesn't say it cannot find guile-config, but 
that permission is denied.

Maybe the permissions on /usr/local/bin or /usr/local are wrong. Could 
you check the permissions on those directories as well? (use ls -ld so 
you get the directory instead of its contents)

Try running

/usr/local/bin/guile-config

directly yourself. See if you can do that without running the script.

Beyond that, I'm stumped. Anyone else got any ideas?

Regards,
Jon

Gopi kumaran wrote:
> Hi Jon
> 
> Let me tell you that guile-config is in /usr/local/bin folder.Actually 
> it is found in guile-1.8.1 folder.I copied it to /usr/local/bin folder 
> as i thought it will check in that folder only (for sdl-config it 
> checked in /usr/local/bin only).Then wehn i run ./configure same problem
> guile-config permission denied.i checked the permisions ls - l 
> /usr/local/bin/guile-config it says
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9104 dec 2 15:14 guile-config
> 
> what to do now?is it because that i copied the folder to that bin folder?
> help me
> 
> regards
> gopi
>
>
> */Jon Wilson /* wrote:
>
> Hi Gopi,
> Are you sure that the execute permissions are set for the
> guile-config
> executable? Check this with ls -l /path/to/guile-config . It should
> look something like
>
> $ ls -l /usr/local/bin/guile-config
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9110 2006-11-30 10:00
> /usr/local/bin/guile-config
>
> The gibberish at the beginning of the line is the permissions. r is
> read, w is write, x is execute. The first rwx is for the owner of the
> file (root in this case), the second r-x is for any user in the group
> (root) that owns the file, and the third r-x is for all other users.
> That initial - is for a few special things, like marking directories.
>
> If you lack the x on the third set of permissions, then most users
> will
> not be able to execute guile-config, and in fact it will fail with
> just
> the error message you received. If you lack the x on all three
> sets of
> permissions, then nobody (yes not even root) will be able to execute
> guile-config.
>
> You can change the permissions with chmod (1). Try
>
> $ chmod a+x /path/to/guile-config
>
> This will set the execute bit for owner, group, and others, that
> is, for
> all three permissions categories. It will leave the read and write
> bits
> unchanged.
>
> Regards,
> Jon
>
> Gopi kumaran wrote:
> > when i run ./configure in guile-1.8.1 it stops by saying
> >
> > checking for guile...guile-config:permission denied
> > configure:cannot find guile-config;is Guile installed?
> >
> > wht to do?I went to /usr/local/bin(i assume that it will check
> in this
> > folder).i tried to run ./guile-config in
> /usr/local/bin/guile-config
> > folder it says
> > ./guile-config:permission denied
> > I changed to su and then tried but still same problem
> >
> > Any help
> > regards
> > gopi
> >
> >
> >
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Re: ./guile-config : permission denied

[Jon Wilson]

Gopi kumaran wrote:
> hi
> my path says
>  
> /sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin 
> *_/usr/local/bin_* /usr/X11R6/bin /root/bin
>
Looks good.
> ls -ld /usr/local/bin/
> drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 1536 dec 2 15:14 /usr/local/bin/
Looks good.
>  
> ls -ld /usr/local/
> drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 1536 dec 2 15:14 /usr/local/
Looks good.
>  
> /usr/local/bin/guile-config: permission denied
Not good.  This is really quite strange.  I'm not quite sure what might 
make this sort of thing happen, except for what I've already suggested.  
Anyone else have ideas?

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Re: ./guile-config : permission denied

[steve tell]

On Mon, 4 Dec 2006, Jon Wilson wrote:

> Gopi kumaran wrote:
>> hi
>> my path says
>>  /sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin 
>> *_/usr/local/bin_* /usr/X11R6/bin /root/bin
>> 
> Looks good.
>> ls -ld /usr/local/bin/
>> drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 1536 dec 2 15:14 /usr/local/bin/
> Looks good.
>>  ls -ld /usr/local/
>> drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 1536 dec 2 15:14 /usr/local/
> Looks good.
>>  /usr/local/bin/guile-config: permission denied
> Not good.  This is really quite strange.  I'm not quite sure what might make 
> this sort of thing happen, except for what I've already suggested.  Anyone 
> else have ideas?

guile-config (at least in 1.6.x) is a script started with 
"#!/usr/bin/guile" or in this case, perhaps "#!/usr/local/bin/guile"

If there was a problem building or installing the interpreter (or 
perhaps the shared libraries it needs?) that might explain this result.

Perhaps check the first line of guile-config, see if the path to guile 
there makes sense, exists, is executable, and basicly works?

maybe run  /usr/local/bin/guile -c '(display (version))(newline)'






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Re: ./guile-config : permission denied

[Jon Wilson]

Hi Steve,

steve tell wrote:
> guile-config (at least in 1.6.x) is a script started with 
> "#!/usr/bin/guile" or in this case, perhaps "#!/usr/local/bin/guile"
>
> If there was a problem building or installing the interpreter (or 
> perhaps the shared libraries it needs?) that might explain this result.
>
> Perhaps check the first line of guile-config, see if the path to guile 
> there makes sense, exists, is executable, and basicly works?
I thought about that.  On my system (linux/bash), having a bad 
interpreter gives a different error message:

$ cat test
#!/bin/foo
foo-commands
$ ls -l /bin/foo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2006-12-05 09:11 /bin/foo
$ ./test
bash: ./test: /bin/foo: bad interpreter: Permission denied

But, now that I think of it, if I run tcsh instead:

$ ./test
./test: Permission denied.

So yes, it does seem likely now that the interpreter is bad.  Gopi, what 
shell are you using?  tcsh?


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Re: ./guile-config : permission denied

[Neil Jerram]

Gopi kumaran <kumarangopi@yahoo.com> writes:

> when i run ./configure in guile-1.8.1 it stops by saying
>  
> checking for guile...guile-config:permission denied
> configure:cannot find guile-config;is Guile installed?
>  
> wht to do?I went to /usr/local/bin(i assume that it will check in this
> folder).i tried to run ./guile-config in  /usr/local/bin/guile-config folder it
> says

I think you need to start from scratch and tell us exactly what you
have done to unpack and build the Guile tarball.  My impression (from
this and other emails) is that you've done something unusual.  Are you
familiar with the usual "tar zxf ..., ./configure, make, make install"
procedure, and is that what you have done?  Please post a complete
transcript, starting from unpacking the tarball.

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Re: ./guile-config : permission denied

[Jon Wilson]

Hi Neil,
In another email (perhaps in another thread), Gopi said that the usual 
unpack, configure, make, make install was what he did.  The problem with 
alloca seems to be a real bug, but if so, as Kevin has said it would 
properly be a matter for the autoconf people, not us.  I'm waiting on 
getting a shell account on my friend's BSD machine, and once that goes 
through, I will then file a bug report to autoconf.

The problem with guile-config permissions seems to have been an issue 
with not having the guile executable where guile-config expected it.  
This might be a bug, or might not.  There was some confusion because 
Gopi was also sending questions about installing libgraph to this list, 
but it may be that he moved the guile executable to a different location 
for some reason having to do with libgraph.  I will try installing guile 
to some PREFIX other than the default once I have that BSD shell 
account, and if there is a problem with guile-config or with permissions 
on guile, I will definitely say something about it.  Anyway, Gopi's 
friend changed the path to guile after the sha-bang in guile-config, and 
all was well following.

There were two other problems Gopi was having.  One was related to 
libgraph, not to guile.  The other was resolved by installing a 
dependency (libtool, it seems).
Regards,
Jon

Neil Jerram wrote:
> Gopi kumaran <kumarangopi@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>   
>> when i run ./configure in guile-1.8.1 it stops by saying
>>  
>> checking for guile...guile-config:permission denied
>> configure:cannot find guile-config;is Guile installed?
>>  
>> wht to do?I went to /usr/local/bin(i assume that it will check in this
>> folder).i tried to run ./guile-config in  /usr/local/bin/guile-config folder it
>> says
>>     
>
> I think you need to start from scratch and tell us exactly what you
> have done to unpack and build the Guile tarball.  My impression (from
> this and other emails) is that you've done something unusual.  Are you
> familiar with the usual "tar zxf ..., ./configure, make, make install"
> procedure, and is that what you have done?  Please post a complete
> transcript, starting from unpacking the tarball.
>
> Regards,
>      Neil
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Re: ./guile-config : permission denied

[Neil Jerram]

Jon Wilson <j85wilson@fastmail.fm> writes:

> Hi Neil,
> In another email (perhaps in another thread), Gopi said that the usual
> unpack, configure, make, make install was what he did.  The problem
> with alloca seems to be a real bug, but if so, as Kevin has said it
> would properly be a matter for the autoconf people, not us.  I'm
> waiting on getting a shell account on my friend's BSD machine, and
> once that goes through, I will then file a bug report to autoconf.

Many thanks for your response.  I'll follow up on the alloca issue (if
needed) in the thread that is covering that more specifically.

> The problem with guile-config permissions seems to have been an issue
> with not having the guile executable where guile-config expected it.
> This might be a bug, or might not.  There was some confusion because
> Gopi was also sending questions about installing libgraph to this
> list, but it may be that he moved the guile executable to a different
> location for some reason having to do with libgraph.  I will try
> installing guile to some PREFIX other than the default once I have
> that BSD shell account, and if there is a problem with guile-config or
> with permissions on guile, I will definitely say something about it.
> Anyway, Gopi's friend changed the path to guile after the sha-bang in
> guile-config, and all was well following.
>
> There were two other problems Gopi was having.  One was related to
> libgraph, not to guile.  The other was resolved by installing a
> dependency (libtool, it seems).

That all sounds fine, then.  Many thanks for your help.

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