My Wisp slides for FOSDEM

My Wisp slides for FOSDEM

[Arne Babenhauserheide]

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Hi,

Can someone who’s at FOSDEM download my slides and lend me a computer
tomorrow during the talk (or get it on the presentation computer)?    https://fosdem.org/2016/schedule/event/guilewisp/attachments/slides/911/export/events/attachments/guilewisp/slides/911/fosdem2016_arne_babenhauserheide_wisp.pdf 

I plan to arrive at 9:30 at Gare Midi so I’ll likely arrive just in time
for the Guile session and I wouldn’t want to have to fight with the
computer.

Liebe Grüße,
Arne
-- 
Unpolitisch sein
heißt politisch sein
ohne es zu merken

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Re: My Wisp slides for FOSDEM

[Alex Sassmannshausen]

Hi Arne,

I've downloaded them to my computer — but really I would rather be your
fail safe, as I'm not 100% sure how my laptop will work with the
presentation equipment :-/

Cheers,
Alex

Arne Babenhauserheide writes:

> Hi,
>
> Can someone who’s at FOSDEM download my slides and lend me a computer
> tomorrow during the talk (or get it on the presentation computer)?    https://fosdem.org/2016/schedule/event/guilewisp/attachments/slides/911/export/events/attachments/guilewisp/slides/911/fosdem2016_arne_babenhauserheide_wisp.pdf 
>
> I plan to arrive at 9:30 at Gare Midi so I’ll likely arrive just in time
> for the Guile session and I wouldn’t want to have to fight with the
> computer.
>
> Liebe Grüße,
> Arne

Re: My Wisp slides for FOSDEM

[Arne Babenhauserheide]

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Hi Alex,

> I've downloaded them to my computer — but really I would rather be your
> fail safe, as I'm not 100% sure how my laptop will work with the
> presentation equipment :-/

Thank you!

I would help that someone who is presenting anyway would also bring it
(my laptop will likely not interact with the presentation equipment at
all…)

Best wishes,
Arne

>> Can someone who’s at FOSDEM download my slides and lend me a computer
>> tomorrow during the talk (or get it on the presentation computer)?    https://fosdem.org/2016/schedule/event/guilewisp/attachments/slides/911/export/events/attachments/guilewisp/slides/911/fosdem2016_arne_babenhauserheide_wisp.pdf 

-- 
Unpolitisch sein
heißt politisch sein
ohne es zu merken

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Re: My Wisp slides for FOSDEM

[Jan Wedekind]

On January 29, 2016 3:47:29 PM GMT, Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab@web.de> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Can someone who’s at FOSDEM download my slides and lend me a computer
>tomorrow during the talk (or get it on the presentation computer)?   
>https://fosdem.org/2016/schedule/event/guilewisp/attachments/slides/911/export/events/attachments/guilewisp/slides/911/fosdem2016_arne_babenhauserheide_wisp.pdf
>
>
>I plan to arrive at 9:30 at Gare Midi so I’ll likely arrive just in
>time
>for the Guile session and I wouldn’t want to have to fight with the
>computer.
>
>Liebe Grüße,
>Arne

WISP looks interesting. Does it work in the REPL?
-- 
Jan Wedekind
http://www.wedesoft.de/

Re: My Wisp slides for FOSDEM

[Jan Wedekind]

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On Fri, 29 Jan 2016, Jan Wedekind wrote:

> On January 29, 2016 3:47:29 PM GMT, Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab@web.de> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Can someone who’s at FOSDEM download my slides and lend me a computer
>> tomorrow during the talk (or get it on the presentation computer)?
>> https://fosdem.org/2016/schedule/event/guilewisp/attachments/slides/911/export/events/attachments/guilewisp/slides/911/fosdem2016_arne_babenhauserheide_wisp.pdf
>>
>>
>> I plan to arrive at 9:30 at Gare Midi so I’ll likely arrive just in
>> time
>> for the Guile session and I wouldn’t want to have to fight with the
>> computer.
>>
>> Liebe Grüße,
>> Arne
>
> WISP looks interesting. Does it work in the REPL?

Ok, I got it working in the REPL. Just had to copy 
"language/wisp/spec.scm" and "wisp-scheme.scm"
to the directory /usr/share/guile/2.0/language/wisp and then type
",language wisp" in the Guile REPL :)

Re: My Wisp slides for FOSDEM

[Arne Babenhauserheide]

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Jan Wedekind writes:

> Ok, I got it working in the REPL. Just had to copy 
> "language/wisp/spec.scm" and "wisp-scheme.scm"
> to the directory /usr/share/guile/2.0/language/wisp and then type
> ",language wisp" in the Guile REPL :)

Nice!

Please tell me about your experience with it.

Best wishes,
Arne
-- 
Unpolitisch sein
heißt politisch sein
ohne es zu merken

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Re: My Wisp slides for FOSDEM

[Jan Wedekind]

On Sun, 31 Jan 2016, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:

>
> Jan Wedekind writes:
>
>> Ok, I got it working in the REPL. Just had to copy
>> "language/wisp/spec.scm" and "wisp-scheme.scm"
>> to the directory /usr/share/guile/2.0/language/wisp and then type
>> ",language wisp" in the Guile REPL :)
>
> Nice!
>
> Please tell me about your experience with it.
>
> Best wishes,
> Arne

Yes, I'm still playing with it.

By the way, here is a proposed change for the automake build [1] to have 
"make install" and "make uninstall" work as expected.

[1] https://github.com/wedesoft/wisp/compare/master...make-install

Re: My Wisp slides for FOSDEM

[Arne Babenhauserheide]

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Jan Wedekind writes:

> Yes, I'm still playing with it.
>
> By the way, here is a proposed change for the automake build [1] to have 
> "make install" and "make uninstall" work as expected.
>
> [1] https://github.com/wedesoft/wisp/compare/master...make-install

That’s great — thank you!
(and easier to read)

Writing good autotools scripts is still a challenge — though I think
that’s mostly an issue of documentation.

When trying this, I stumble over this error message:

configure: error: searching for guile development files for versions 2.0 1.8, but previously found /home/arne/.guix-profile/bin/guile version 2.2

Do you know how to fix that?

Best wishes,
Arne
-- 
Unpolitisch sein
heißt politisch sein
ohne es zu merken

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Re: My Wisp slides for FOSDEM

[Jan Wedekind]

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On Wed, 3 Feb 2016, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:

>
> Jan Wedekind writes:
>
>> Yes, I'm still playing with it.
>>
>> By the way, here is a proposed change for the automake build [1] to have
>> "make install" and "make uninstall" work as expected.
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/wedesoft/wisp/compare/master...make-install
>
> That’s great — thank you!
> (and easier to read)
>
> Writing good autotools scripts is still a challenge — though I think
> that’s mostly an issue of documentation.
>
> When trying this, I stumble over this error message:
>
> configure: error: searching for guile development files for versions 2.0 1.8, but previously found /home/arne/.guix-profile/bin/guile version 2.2
>
> Do you know how to fix that?
>
> Best wishes,
> Arne

Ok, I updated the code to use "GUILE_PKG([2.2 2.0 1.8])" instead of using
pkg-config directly. Does this version work?

[1] https://github.com/wedesoft/wisp/compare/master...make-install

Re: My Wisp slides for FOSDEM

[Arne Babenhauserheide]

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Jan Wedekind writes:

> WISP looks interesting. Does it work in the REPL?

Yes. The Guile implementation also uses the reserved final dot on a line
in SRFI-119 to make the REPL more convenient: You can end the line by
appending " ." to the line (and enter). Example:

> display "Hello World!\n" .

Debug output also mostly works: Most debug lines have the correct source
line information (some are missing, these might need more heavyweight
tracking of source information in the parser than I want to do right
now).

Best wishes,
Arne
-- 
Unpolitisch sein
heißt politisch sein
ohne es zu merken

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Re: My Wisp slides for FOSDEM

[Jan Wedekind]

On Fri, 29 Jan 2016, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:

>
> Jan Wedekind writes:
>
>> WISP looks interesting. Does it work in the REPL?
>
> Yes. The Guile implementation also uses the reserved final dot on a line
> in SRFI-119 to make the REPL more convenient: You can end the line by
> appending " ." to the line (and enter). Example:
>
>> display "Hello World!\n" .
>

Thanks for that. I was just wondering about that.

> Debug output also mostly works: Most debug lines have the correct source
> line information (some are missing, these might need more heavyweight
> tracking of source information in the parser than I want to do right
> now).
>
> Best wishes,
> Arne

I am using GOOPS already which seems to discard line number information, 
so no problem ;)

All the best with your talk.

Regards
Jan