From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sebastian Tennant Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: ttn-pers-scheme & ttn-do Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:36:24 +0300 Message-ID: <87wsn33u9j.fsf@moley.moleskin.org> References: <87iqzj4we8.fsf@moley.moleskin.org> <874pb3majf.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <87r6e7ezt6.fsf@moley.moleskin.org> <878wzvkwiq.fsf@ambire.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208018268 20976 80.91.229.12 (12 Apr 2008 16:37:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:37:48 +0000 (UTC) To: guile-user@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 12 18:38:21 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jkik5-0007kv-6D for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:38:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JkijR-0004XL-6k for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:37:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JkiiW-0003V8-AU for guile-user@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:36:40 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JkiiV-0003UG-DG for guile-user@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:36:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JkiiV-0003U4-0r for guile-user@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:36:39 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JkiiU-0002zW-LT for guile-user@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:36:38 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JkiiR-0003C4-3u for guile-user@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:36:35 +0000 Original-Received: from 85.105.17.65 ([85.105.17.65]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:36:35 +0000 Original-Received: from sebyte by 85.105.17.65 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:36:35 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 54 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.105.17.65 User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ahg2meh4I2mi3R0jOX7pbgWYhOw= X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.user:6533 Archived-At: Quoth Thien-Thi Nguyen : > () Sebastian Tennant > () Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:08:37 +0200 > > What was this special exception and was it the reason for the fork? > > The fork was over deprecation of some libguile API elements, plus > administrative snafu. The special exception can be seen in some Guile > releases in the top-level README: > > | The exception is that, if you link the GUILE library with other files > | to produce an executable, this does not by itself cause the > | resulting executable to be covered by the GNU General Public License. > | Your use of that executable is in no way restricted on account of > | linking the GUILE library code into it. Very interesting. Presumably this is/was to encourage use of Guile across the board (i.e., in non-free environments too)? > Good luck. I'd be very interested to know a little more about the > politics e.t.c.... perhaps off-list?.. even though you describe the fork > as amicable. > > Here's my recollection of events: Thanks for taking the time to write this. I can't say exactly _why_ it's nice to know how the situation came about, but it is, nevertheless. > So i see 1.4.x not really so much a fork as a long-lived non-local > branch. Now that there is new Guile maintainership, i think it would be > a good idea to merge some of the good stuff from that branch into the > trunk. I'd say so. As someone who wants to use Guile for scripting database-backed websites and the like, guile-pg and guile-www are two essential components. Fortunately your guile-www _does_ work with guile-1.8. > Git supports branches much better than cvs, so there is now even > less reason for the shutout. I hope the maintainers are listening. Surely it's time to let bygones be bygones and work for the common good of Guile and all who sail in her. > We all cope as best we can. Indeed we do. Thanks for your comprehensive and informative reply. Sebastian -- Emacs' AlsaPlayer - Music Without Jolts http://sebyte.org/eap.html