From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Michael Schierl <schierlm@gmx.de>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, guile-user@gnu.org, bootstrappable@freelists.org
Subject: Re: [bootstrappable] Re: Can Guile be bootstrapped from source without psyntax-pp.scm?
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 18:25:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wnu51ymh.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6d533331-87f7-414b-7422-276530798194@gmx.de> (Michael Schierl's message of "Mon, 15 Mar 2021 20:50:07 +0100")
Hi Michael,
Michael Schierl <schierlm@gmx.de> skribis:
> Am 15.03.2021 um 18:09 schrieb Ludovic Courtès:
>> Woow, this is great news! I think it would be great towards importing
>> it in Guile proper.
>>
>> To do that, I think we should first get Andy’s opinion on the approach.
>
> I don't think upstream is very interested in having psyntax-pp.scm
> bootstrappable. In Guile 3.0.3 they broke even the `make
> ice-9/psyntax-pp.scm.gen` target, and did not repair it even in Guile
> 3.0.5, that's why I used 3.0.2 for the bootstrap. But I included a patch
> to repair it in 3.0.5 in case you really want to bootstrap that version
> (psyntax-pp.scm has not changed there). OTOH, from the git log it seems
> like psyntax is currently being overhauled for the next release, so
> probably my code would need some updates for the next version.
Andy made it clear that it was a bug. There’s an interest in providing
a good bootstrapping story for Guile; that’s why there’s an interpreter
written in C, for example. I’m sure we’d be happy to address psyntax
bootstrapping as well!
> Also, in the last 15 years I avoided directly contributing to "GNU
> projects" (with FSF as copyright holder in the license headers), reasons
> below. But if anyone else takes my code and upstreams it, I won't object.
Sure, we can discuss the details of how to integrate your code. (Guile
incorporates code not initially written for Guile, such as sxml or
(ice-9 match), and the policy is to not require copyright assignment for
such code.)
> Regardless, even when not part of Guile, I believe this code is very
> useful for both the live-bootstrap project and Guix to get their Guile
> bootstrapped. And even if nobody ever updates it for 3.0.6+, you can
> always bootstrap the later versions from an earlier Guile. And maybe a
> variation of it lands in GNU Mes, too.
Yes, that would be great. We’ll have to take a closer look, but I’m
under the impression that a fruitful approach for Guile would be to have
it maintained in-tree; that would immediately benefit all distros.
Thanks!
Ludo’.
PS: Not all GNU packages require copyright assignment. Guix doesn’t,
for instance, and we’d be happy to get your contributions. :-)
prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-03-17 17:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-03-13 22:42 Can Guile be bootstrapped from source without psyntax-pp.scm? Michael Schierl
2021-03-14 13:57 ` [bootstrappable] " Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2021-03-14 14:18 ` Michael Schierl
2021-03-15 17:09 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-03-15 19:50 ` Michael Schierl
2021-03-16 8:59 ` Andy Wingo
2021-05-13 20:22 ` Michael Schierl
2021-03-17 17:25 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
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