From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: How to make GNU Guile more successful Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2017 10:40:16 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87tw789i4f.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <9386102A-AA6C-4CC1-82EE-7758106A435C@openmailbox.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1488706855 26019 195.159.176.226 (5 Mar 2017 09:40:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 09:40:55 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: guile-user@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 05 10:40:52 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckSep-0006EO-7S for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 10:40:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38148 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckSev-00034g-E6 for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 04:40:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53896) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckSeU-00034Z-Dv for guile-user@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 04:40:31 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckSeR-0006OQ-1j for guile-user@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 04:40:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=43819 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckSeQ-0006NY-M4 for guile-user@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 04:40:26 -0500 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckSeG-0002rz-8d for guile-user@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 10:40:16 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw Cancel-Lock: sha1:lyxWAB8up5IGOAKAj1zJruxtA90= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-user" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.user:13405 Archived-At: Alejandro Sanchez writes: > Scheme on the other hand is weird; weird in a good way, but still > weird. For me the reason for picking up Scheme was working my way > through SICP, but even before that I had heard of the Lisp > family. Every time I tried to find out what the fuss was about Lisp > all I could find was nebulous concepts like “it’s a programmable > programming language” without explaining what that even meant and why > I would ever want to use it. > > Of course once I got over the weird parentheses and I understood why > they are actually a beneficial aspect I liked it. Everything falls into place once you understand that Scheme does not offer a programming language as user interface. Instead, you directly write down the parse trees in Scheme's compact list representation. That's not exactly readable but makes structure-preserving code manipulation a breeze. -- David Kastrup