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From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org>
To: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
Cc: guile-user@gnu.org, bootstrappable@freelists.org
Subject: Re: Can Guile be bootstrapped from source without psyntax-pp.scm?
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2017 16:55:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tw2onvos.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87inj5f2eg.fsf@netris.org> (Mark H. Weaver's message of "Thu, 06 Jul 2017 21:42:47 -0400")

Mark H Weaver writes:

>> Does this mean Guile is not bootstrappable from source only?
>
> That's correct.  psyntax-pp.scm is not source code, and it is needed to
> bootstrap Guile.

I'm facing the same problem with Mes.  I have an implemenation of
syntax-rules that is just about 200 lines of define-macro source code,
but not syntax case.

The only useful thing I found was Andre van Tonder's syntax-case.  I
tried to geth it up and running, which just might be a way (it's not
clear to me from the documentation or code and it seems to have been a
lone effort that was abandoned -- could not find any references or
follow-ups) to have syntax-case without psyntax.  I gave up for now.

> Having said this, I agree that it would be better if psyntax.scm were
> written in such a way that it could be bootstrapped without the use of
> itself.  Maybe some day we'll rewrite it to make it so.

That could be essential to our full source bootstrapping efforts so I'm
very much interested!

Greetings,
janneke

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-07 14:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-06 15:24 Can Guile be bootstrapped from source without psyntax-pp.scm? Alex Vong
2017-07-07  1:42 ` Mark H Weaver
2017-07-07 14:00   ` Alex Vong
2017-07-07 16:40     ` Mark H Weaver
2017-07-07 14:55   ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen [this message]
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2021-03-13 22:42 Michael Schierl

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