From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user,gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: Guile optimizations slowing down the program? 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Is that >> something expected? > > I don't think so, but I don't have a clue how this happens ... Do I understand it correctly that Lilypond has lots of snippets that are executed exactly once? In that case it could be expected that the overhead of optimization dominates =E2=80=94 maybe even the overhead of increased code-size from inlining? Also the new baseline compiler is already pretty good: https://wingolog.org/archives/2020/06/03/a-baseline-compiler-for-guile Maybe this? > There is also a felicitous feedback effect in that because the > baseline compiler is much smaller than the CPS compiler, it takes less > time to macro-expand =E2=80=94 https://wingolog.org/archives/2020/06/03/a= -baseline-compiler-for-guile Best wishes, Arne =2D-=20 Unpolitisch sein hei=C3=9Ft politisch sein, ohne es zu merken. draketo.de --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJEBAEBCAAuFiEE801qEjXQSQPNItXAE++NRSQDw+sFAmIoXroQHGFybmVfYmFi QHdlYi5kZQAKCRAT741FJAPD6/d/D/0W9xygEOxiAcXqWzWgJYq+Xda2F3GTJSTy PRd7xmNv3BUtKK5gphxWbagBgNvcsAqN+B3tVU73Co95O5OewXhGHiA6IXNRcluj KW9C50dtLoYoC84LiYlRXM43Js5g117/uqQXaObW0bhhO2/dzcCnuE1+0h49lCG0 COPZGEGyh9jaflweY/LbPLRLz1WyeEOYumbWQzawrDdEFy5gl+ZkG2pUZyJ6GSoq F4pK1OTOcIkLOLQO+ihve9XsKeE0ygZOsopMZakN8p6WvqCbeHnFo6XOcIvEjWnN Et2aAqYHzwtiEKUUhAhIVVnjOqfn5m81xL0XnJfnKJlZT2BtRv+48CIyQVu5NQvq 1Daw5haooYpeC379QMTFJUH+b/7fspd4f//YtcVtCuXh793Vg1UYM37Tvs1KVzv+ ehtb4SeiO0qKG64rb1bFT985c4tQv4AD+4aPawCnPE8UaCkslbshMIirjPOCS2LQ GC3JhRxoxVEyYd2obmn1TETai/ObSQABOccYOWpl/G01GqPQZpd85owFzouO8Q5Y lsbFj0/P89Gp66cnLFEv1LumW0c/4+17NnI6Em9OiLc7fx/n0Iyt5/tloixAasEp ErZte2prHEffIBvFOFuLEiHY79TpZPt8oEwxFCH2c7XUzP+L7jaBS2fzQ4Bw7Kvc TDGZsBVCNIjDBAEBCAAuFiEE3Si95tmHXKvOSosd3M8NswvBBUgFAmIoXrsQHGFy bmVfYmFiQHdlYi5kZQAKCRDczw2zC8EFSFfEA/QNN8/mDHI55h2yeJdSanFzxfJz HHFpzmiGOtG8KNzi/UwUT2ZQ9BtqTk0eWi8IWYi+btcUlf2j088cOw6c+j7pWkhi euXVZ3HoKuR5TvhKkbFAT4VNXXx8DXC26byOz/imWeZrbbLDQm0QrqyhfZJ/bNzz nWP7MeWJs1yRZDcG =Kopo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--