From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Timothy Sample Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: Ideas for making Guile easier to approach Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2022 19:56:26 -0500 Message-ID: <87leyja69x.fsf@ngyro.com> References: <87a6f1mtz3.fsf@nonconstructivism.com> <20220208194657.ed7afe59b80eeb9c7ce880f3@gmail.com> <87o83fdeqz.fsf@dustycloud.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37261"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) Cc: guile-user@gnu.org To: Christine Lemmer-Webber Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 10 01:58:58 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nHxnV-0009Uf-Og for guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2022 01:58:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33034 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nHxnU-0004CD-CA for guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 09 Feb 2022 19:58:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49208) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nHxlC-0004Bf-6Q for guile-user@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Feb 2022 19:56:34 -0500 Original-Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:58699) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nHxl9-0007gb-S2 for guile-user@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Feb 2022 19:56:33 -0500 Original-Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4FE35C00F8; Wed, 9 Feb 2022 19:56:28 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 09 Feb 2022 19:56:28 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:sender:subject :subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=kZR0GvVqGZS+3o2Ap02b3VzKeHK0Bt/fDZWqaxCFX WQ=; b=MQg1A4JBTPPsGcAjfWwaNmm5WBXjJolctz57Rr1qewLcz8XXhI0k4RKW1 +CkhSEfzR2XGj5nfiipxkmwLknj70Ukg5hv/EyV6/UEKHiLyQ4tSyz8YwE+uXOuu jWLxvS5sR2/2a4xlf4sI20+/S9LshVrb1CD4c4o0JI1C0FQYQFxLXOCxh7VZZ/pO u9EEBRdGkUrhAycpmU+9WaSgJH32JnqXxv3A47eyO4829Sft/u6mEizvRSNP74s8 1HKnKOUHPbr0rTJiHg0fqTMjl4Fr70fJBmEuqRMKtAxoIpdjsRkd9h2utsmIhzyq bY/W5i1TMIFgn3/VD7qU+rqkY1w9Q== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvvddriedtgddviecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenuc fjughrpefhvffufhffjgfkfgggtgfgsehtqhertddtreejnecuhfhrohhmpefvihhmohht hhihucfurghmphhlvgcuoehsrghmphhlvghtsehnghihrhhordgtohhmqeenucggtffrrg htthgvrhhnpedvvdevfeefgfejkefhieehudfgiedviefgleelffdthefgfefhfffgffek veejgfenucffohhmrghinhepshgthhgvmhgvrhhsrdhorhhgnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuih iivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepshgrmhhplhgvthesnhhghihrohdr tghomh X-ME-Proxy: Original-Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Wed, 9 Feb 2022 19:56:28 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87o83fdeqz.fsf@dustycloud.org> (Christine Lemmer-Webber's message of "Wed, 09 Feb 2022 10:18:27 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.111.4.25; envelope-from=samplet@ngyro.com; helo=out1-smtp.messagingengine.com X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-user" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.user:18059 Archived-At: Hi Christine, Christine Lemmer-Webber writes: > Heck, maybe I should make a SRFI for common human readable SRFI names. > #mildlyspicytake #maybenotabadidea It looks to be about as spicy as a cucumber. :) I remembered that the R7RS Large process was giving library names to SRFIs, but it looks like many of them now have a =E2=80=9Clibrary name=E2= =80=9D field in their metadata. For instance, see , which says =E2=80=9Clibrary name: and-let*=E2=80=9D. Unfortunately, there = are conflicts (for example, 43 and 133 are both called =E2=80=9Cvectors=E2=80=9D), so we = might not be able to take their names whole cloth. Having many libraries named with a number is annoying to experienced users and beginners alike. Let=E2=80=99s fix it! (I liked the rest of your message too, but the SRFI names really stand out as something to be fixed IMO.) -- Tim