From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: GSoC: Guile-Emacs + Emacsy Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 22:45:39 +0200 Message-ID: <87k3m7q87g.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r4gr2tln.fsf@gnu.org> <496709D4-531F-429B-B14C-B2C697FD3BD3@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1370551869 19159 80.91.229.3 (6 Jun 2013 20:51:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 20:51:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Guile Mailing List , BT Templeton To: Shane Celis Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 06 22:51:10 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ukh9F-0006SQ-De for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 22:51:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49842 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ukh9F-0006fY-20 for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 16:51:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48062) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ukh8x-0006fA-Qo for guile-user@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 16:50:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ukh8s-00078H-Tj for guile-user@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 16:50:47 -0400 Original-Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([141.255.128.1]:48410) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ukh8s-000787-OQ for guile-user@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 16:50:42 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC47C27; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 22:45:40 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vg3eo6ts4QG6; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 22:45:40 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from pluto (reverse-83.fdn.fr [80.67.176.83]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 57806C0E; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 22:45:40 +0200 (CEST) X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 18 Prairial an 221 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xEA52ECF4 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 83C4 F8E5 10A3 3B4C 5BEA D15D 77DD 95E2 EA52 ECF4 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <496709D4-531F-429B-B14C-B2C697FD3BD3@gmail.com> (Shane Celis's message of "Thu, 6 Jun 2013 12:42:00 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130007 (Ma Gnus v0.7) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 141.255.128.1 X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.user:10408 Archived-At: Hello! (Stripping emacs-devel here.) Shane Celis skribis: > I've written up a blog post[1] on some of the features and ideas that > I've been turning over in my head for how best to go about providing > online help such that an Emacsy app can be self-documenting, job > control, and a note about the key-lookup-command-execute-loop. I > could certainly use input from Guilers and Emacsers about how best to > achieve these things. [...] > [1]: > http://shanecelis.github.io/emacsy/2013/06/05/google-summer-of-code-2013-= emacsy/ This looks promising. Regarding documentation, using Guile=E2=80=99s built-in web server seems li= ke the least intrusive mechanism, from an application developer=E2=80=99s viewpoint, and it should work well in practice (using Guile=E2=80=99s web server, SXML, and Texinfo modules.) I was thinking that perhaps Emacsy could also offer a GTK+ mode, where it would display documentation in a GTK+ window instead (perhaps using Guile-GNOME). A few years ago Andy had written a Texinfo browser for Guile-GNOME, which could give some ideas [0]. WDYT? Job control would seem like a very nice feature. I=E2=80=99m not sure what= the API could you like (esp. assuming it uses cooperative threads), but it=E2= =80=99s a good idea to dig further in that direction. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. [0] http://wingolog.org/archives/2004/07/25/literate-programming-with-guile= -lib