From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andy Wingo Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user,gmane.comp.gnu.guix.devel Subject: Re: [bootstrappable] Re: Can Guile be bootstrapped from source without psyntax-pp.scm? Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 09:59:30 +0100 Message-ID: <87k0q7scct.fsf@igalia.com> References: <87zgz4cpib.fsf@gnu.org> <6d533331-87f7-414b-7422-276530798194@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21024"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= , guile-user@gnu.org, bootstrappable@freelists.org To: Michael Schierl Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 16 10:01:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lM5Zd-0005ME-Qf for guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2021 10:01:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50820 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lM5Zc-0000A7-Rp for guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2021 05:01:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49440) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lM5Yi-000093-Kl; Tue, 16 Mar 2021 05:00:16 -0400 Original-Received: from fanzine.igalia.com ([178.60.130.6]:37526) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lM5Yc-00023s-4S; Tue, 16 Mar 2021 05:00:12 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=igalia.com; s=20170329; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=VcSFQnoKUsQMmsy8tITey4MXxw1nH7ZgRWtykSxVS5U=; b=nrBbV4CEGaZ8ANmd6Jar6g1eUVQNqKUZIzjFElm2RmXZLqfDoVThX6NersgtB1gGewL+jnmQU4XAh4XQP8vBJi4KVeGu6ab06eFW7mAYlCB4hpAATtROVfgrNKTvXuVsPJ61Eez8uJ7J4s13bul4VSQoXkbmL4h9wIp2oNwwGCxQD0MQqALbZHhGHhtdRRnLn70HDU+vOJwk+pkPGpNzUtaBlW/aFTuc69cLiTlZWDcdNE9NvVcQPl86IRYl7vsLzATESLQKVVpohaWuruXeFHVYVdoLH9qSRVw/M2wnHf1OHnpE2sMpnTgAKoG4JuQkwcX/wNrcgU4UDL3CB7bdsg==; Original-Received: from 82-65-63-215.subs.proxad.net ([82.65.63.215] helo=milano) by fanzine.igalia.com with esmtpsa (Cipher TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim) id 1lM5YD-00042T-NB; Tue, 16 Mar 2021 09:59:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: <6d533331-87f7-414b-7422-276530798194@gmx.de> (Michael Schierl's message of "Mon, 15 Mar 2021 20:50:07 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=178.60.130.6; envelope-from=wingo@igalia.com; helo=fanzine.igalia.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-user" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.user:17366 gmane.comp.gnu.guix.devel:57903 Archived-At: On Mon 15 Mar 2021 20:50, Michael Schierl writes: > Am 15.03.2021 um 18:09 schrieb Ludovic Court=C3=A8s: >> Woow, this is great news! I think it would be great towards importing >> it in Guile proper. >> >> To do that, I think we should first get Andy=E2=80=99s opinion on the ap= proach. > > I don't think upstream is very interested in having psyntax-pp.scm > bootstrappable. Why do you say that? :) > In Guile 3.0.3 they broke even the `make ice-9/psyntax-pp.scm.gen` > target, and did not repair it even in Guile 3.0.5, that's why I used > 3.0.2 for the bootstrap. Strange -- I used it many times over the past couple months without problems. But I see now from your patches what the issue was -- and omg how embarrassing, I must have a stale canonicalize.go file hanging around in the tree. Goes to show how important bootstrapping is! Andy