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For images, there is > Stable Diffusion (disclaimer:I don't know much about them). For > raw data, there's Common Crawl [3], which is Stable Diffusion's Stable diffusion has one of the most evil licenses I=E2=80=99ve read till n= ow: using its images seems to be allowed for almost all proprietary uses, but illegal for free culture use. See the explicit questions about that here: https://github.com/CompVis/stable-diffusion/issues/131 A license that makes its output only usable for proprietary creations but not for free culture is like the polar opposite of the GPL or CC by-sa: making a tool that gives proprietary creations an advantage over Free Culture. Some quotes: > Does this mean that the CreativeML Open RAIL-M license makes output > from the model incompatible with copyleft Free Culture and Free > Software licenses, so it would for example be illegal to use any of > the output in Wikipedia? Is there legal uncertainty about that? =E2=80=A6 > The first thing to say is that this license is about as far away from > open source as it could possibly get. =E2=80=A6 >> "No use of the output can contravene any provision as stated in the Lice= nse.". > A Japanese lawyer I know told me that, in general terms, releasing > output under the CC-BY could be a violation of the license if such a > provision exists. (* He is not familiar with this license and has not > reviewed it in detail) No answer from the developers. Best wishes, Arne =2D-=20 Unpolitisch sein hei=C3=9Ft politisch sein, ohne es zu merken. draketo.de --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJEBAEBCAAuFiEE801qEjXQSQPNItXAE++NRSQDw+sFAmQXmiYQHGFybmVfYmFi QHdlYi5kZQAKCRAT741FJAPD6xNFD/4kQWVDLnvT2bgS/t2joeMvlDoVNMIPbUjY /lmPH/YTtLbqpNTLFP+nFvg+cvo3xIypPNfqDK1K4vUB08qQiKE+gbURcnMRoedR Te9baovayXFu7kbqp1aijwNuX6La7c+rmKGrC0Ny14PoDq7JToUD3t+G0tQiX9UZ 5ZxyQM0I/MXkK+Uxjfj2hnknvsRPnC8j+E2hyzT/b9bHJm1d7gHLWUBxxCnHkdHD vRRmcrAalQQDbaN8aOgPe0lXSFR4OwfXnkSxBgAJW6hKq2A2CtaB6fFxFJ/KWOsl /+ODDfKLd1S4w3pCR6c8Kx7tCWlH8N1YTJ5x6wDFRNBld/ABQAJY9Ga+nSwGIBoO pD7WymlHXmH+RgTKZhZ08956IVbTGYA68T/jy5x1n24tZyPGP8W2DqyUkLMdZ7s/ 0IPqJ8cd+UHIK4EHmiv44HSBRBQwg3BAtpzTxWyN5VK5jjVg536lIr5anfIhhB69 Cb6I51ztAnWCkZm/qZvo6/7vpTnxsKsTetX/M0IAhFg/Mw110gBrB09axe369k3e MhjkAIy4i9scn7EuDtAPJWE+G+O4x6USlR76hjPo1C/pJ6Ju2uioERqE+Z0qC81x 9Jr2HjNO9JNogUp8QrjsC3plJYGZbKACJ1+SXn0O34/hVW1WMzt0JSqLdPd+28eK A/9SsHvE8YjEBAEBCAAuFiEE3Si95tmHXKvOSosd3M8NswvBBUgFAmQXmikQHGFy bmVfYmFiQHdlYi5kZQAKCRDczw2zC8EFSG20A/9bUAwoMYT8pPBEabqKWYBZWqeM uzgvpKHzSHceEp0BjYmrPVPZYkpxvOp1ae6TlKInKU+wAeA0HnCo4pmCukV8Xxn4 7XBHWCBtKPiv8OsO1SEWtOtXj85VuOZ7HyPYbeL4TvQ6Hzl4mILaElk5HduCW8Zj xkYOicHlTZQkviu3/Q== =a2ib -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--